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Old 07-07-2012, 04:17 PM #1
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Do Not Buy/sell/or Trade With Xboxdude123

My friend (Synergypaintball) made and agreement with him to trade his (Synergypaintball's) Dye limited edition LIFT NT11 for xboxdude123's purple and silver luxe. My friend successfully sent him the NT and a week later my friend never received the Luxe, after no replies he finally responded saying that he shipped and the tracking says delivered... But the guy never shipped the Luxe... He JUST NOW AFTER A WEEK told my friend he shipped back the NT because he forgot the manual, THE MANUAL!!! And he NEVER SHIPPED THE LUXE IN THE FIRST PLACE WHEN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO IT AT THE SAME TIME!! The NT was said to be delivered quite a few days ago but my friend never got the package. So now his 775 dollar gun is lost. And the man who shipped it back WITHOUT EVEN TELLING MY FRIEND UNTIL AFTER ITS STOLEN/LOST says he wants no part of this matter and will not pay or help one bit. DEAR MODERATORS PLEASE HELP MY FRIEND IN THIS MATTER!!!
Good guy: Synergypaintball
EVIL MAN: Xboxdude123
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Old 07-07-2012, 04:21 PM #2
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If I may offer help:

1.) Relax a little and retype your post with what happened. Synergypaintball and Xboxdude 123 were supposed to trade, Synergy's Dye LIFT NT11 for Xbox's luxe, etc.

2.) Post screenshots of your conversations (or Synergy's conversations) with Xboxdude.

3.) Contact the police in both your area and his area

Good luck to you, I hope everything gets sorted out.
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Old 07-07-2012, 04:37 PM #3
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well first off, it shouldnt b him posting this thread. it should b his friend, the one who actually was making the trade... that way u can get screenshots, info, etc...
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Old 07-07-2012, 04:40 PM #4
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I'm not here to do it. I'm just getting word out not to trade with him... You guys can go check his thread for the actual pics and such
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Old 07-07-2012, 05:07 PM #5
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I am the friend and will be posting pics shortly thank you
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Old 07-07-2012, 05:15 PM #6
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You should probably get MillerLite to post them in his first post, it's going to be hard to see it if the story's the 5th post in the thread. Either that or start a new thread and ask for this one to be deleted.
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Old 07-07-2012, 09:36 PM #7
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synergy you should be the one starting this thread. I would suggest starting your own thread with the screenshots of the PM's.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:03 AM #8
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Ok this is xboxdudes brother. He sent the gun back not bc of the manual it's be he just didnt like it and the agreement was that he shipped first not the same time? So there not a problem here sorry your friend didn't like the outcome but he's got his gun back bc I personally shipped it with tracking. I don't know what else to say here your trying to ruin someone's name just bc he didn't like your friends gun? Wow how old are we now?
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:46 AM #9
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I shipped the gun, I have all the paper work
To show that I did, i called USPS and they even said it was delivered,
It's not my fault they lost it, I didnt steal it, even he knows that, he even told me an didn't mean to say that, so I don't care that your his friend, but you should get the whole story first, yea one reason I sent the gun back was because the manule, I pecificly told him to put in the Manuel's.
He said ok I will. I received the gun, guess what no manual, and the gun had way to much kick for my likings, so I set the gun back, WITH TRACKING, and on the tracking, it says it was delivered, so I dont know why you are having everyone call me a scammer, when I sent your gun back, it says it was delivered, and like I said I even called for you like you asked me to, they said it was delivered, it's not my fault, if it was on your door step and it got stolen, or they lost it, if they lost it how am I a scammer, so please mods when I can me or my brother will post pics of all the paper work
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:49 AM #10
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And you want me to pay for something that I didnt lose, of course I'm not goin to pay 775 I don't have that, and even If I did I wouldn't, USPS lost it, not me!
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:52 AM #11
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Hey it's manual* hehehe
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:55 AM #12
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Old 07-08-2012, 12:13 PM #13
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Just sent the guy, all the paper work, he said he is sorry for he did and is going to take down the posts, now I have to deal with this friend, that hd no part at all in this
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:12 PM #14
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I shipped the gun, I have all the paper work
To show that I did, i called USPS and they even said it was delivered,
It's not my fault they lost it, I didnt steal it, even he knows that, he even told me an didn't mean to say that, so I don't care that your his friend, but you should get the whole story first, yea one reason I sent the gun back was because the manule, I pecificly told him to put in the Manuel's.
He said ok I will. I received the gun, guess what no manual, and the gun had way to much kick for my likings, so I set the gun back, WITH TRACKING, and on the tracking, it says it was delivered, so I dont know why you are having everyone call me a scammer, when I sent your gun back, it says it was delivered, and like I said I even called for you like you asked me to, they said it was delivered, it's not my fault, if it was on your door step and it got stolen, or they lost it, if they lost it how am I a scammer, so please mods when I can me or my brother will post pics of all the paper work
Technically it's your responsibility to make sure the gun is in his hands or cash in his hands in the event it gets stolen...That's what insurance/DC is for
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:08 PM #15
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Technically it's your responsibility to make sure the gun is in his hands or cash in his hands in the event it gets stolen...That's what insurance/DC is for
What you want me to do, ride in the USPS truck with my package?
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:18 PM #16
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What you want me to do, ride in the USPS truck with my package?
It's worth the money to purchase insurance and delivery confirmation...at the least you should get delivery confirmation, then you would have proof that the person actually received the marker...
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All of this is nonsense without the screenshots to proof all the claims. But just out of the posts here are some problems:
1) It is not usually the case that you can ship back an item without the other party's agreement. You each are trading used guns, and can expect to receive such. This means these markers are not perfect, and refund is not the normal part of the transaction, unless agreed to beforehand.
2) Sending a marker back due to lacking a manual is an obvious excuse. Synergypaintball could have send it in an envelope separately.
3)Whose responsibility is it for items stolen from your porch?

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Technically it's your responsibility to make sure the gun is in his hands or cash in his hands in the event it gets stolen...That's what insurance/DC is for
The sender of an item is responsible only until the item is "Delivered" at the receiver's address. What happens afterwards is the receiver's responsibility. The sender is not responsible for the neighborhood security of the receiver. If a passer-by picked up the item from the porch it is theft from that home, and can be claimed through the homeowner's insurance-just like if your patio chair is stolen from your porch.

On the other hand the sender should notify the receiver about the package being sent, so he can follow the tracking and know to watch for the package being delivered.
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All of this is nonsense without the screenshots to proof all the claims. But just out of the posts here are some problems:
1) It is not usually the case that you can ship back an item without the other party's agreement. You each are trading used guns, and can expect to receive such. This means these markers are not perfect, and refund is not the normal part of the transaction, unless agreed to beforehand.
2) Sending a marker back due to lacking a manual is an obvious excuse. Synergypaintball could have send it in an envelope separately.
3)Whose responsibility is it for items stolen from your porch?



The sender of an item is responsible only until the item is "Delivered" at the receiver's address. What happens afterwards is the receiver's responsibility. The sender is not responsible for the neighborhood security of the receiver. If a passer-by picked up the item from the porch it is theft from that home, and can be claimed through the homeowner's insurance-just like if your patio chair is stolen from your porch.

On the other hand the sender should notify the receiver about the package being sent, so he can follow the tracking and know to watch for the package being delivered.
i disagree...What happens if the marker is damaged through shipping and sender had no insurance?..is it then the person receiving the markers problem?..
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:44 PM #19
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It says it was delivered, I don't have money to pay fr everything extra, it got to his house, according to the people I have talked to at USPS. If it got stolen from his porch, why would I get blamed for that?
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I fail to see why someone wouldn't pay the $5-7 to get insurance on an item that expensive....

Absolutely the sending party's responsibility until it is in the receiving party's hands.

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Requiring a signature is even cheaper.

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Old 07-08-2012, 02:51 PM #21
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Not all of use have extra money, for stupid s***. It says it was delivered, how do I know he dont have his gun and he's trying to scam me? Anyone think about that?
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