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Old 06-06-2012, 10:01 PM #1
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Smile alien invasion12 technical overview

Please share your thoughts on this video. Is a tech showing you the partially stripped down invasion and explaining what does what and why it's so good
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:00 AM #2
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:43 PM #3
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Old 06-10-2012, 03:00 PM #4
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Thanks guys
Looks like I'm going to be shooting one of these very soon
Must say the amount of amazingness in them I wasn't aware if until the chat I had with Chris as they are technologically the most advanced markers I have seen so far, the back spin IMO is an amazing idea.
And sub for more alien videos coming up very soon.......
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Old 06-10-2012, 11:54 PM #5
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Ok, and how exactly do you optimize the bottom reg? I'll take consistency any day over efficiency but if you're just swapping the bottom reg spring, the marker will have to settle back in again.
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:11 AM #6
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Ok, and how exactly do you optimize the bottom reg? I'll take consistency any day over efficiency but if you're just swapping the bottom reg spring, the marker will have to settle back in again.
Higher Dwell allows for a lower LPR setting. This is generally considered the "smooth setting" on most markers.

Lower Dwell means you have to raise the LPR. This will increase efficiency but also make shot a little snappier.
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Old 06-13-2012, 12:39 PM #7
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Ok, and how exactly do you optimize the bottom reg? I'll take consistency any day over efficiency but if you're just swapping the bottom reg spring, the marker will have to settle back in again.
No need to even consider swapping the bottom spring. All the guns sent to England had the longer (3/4 inch), softer. LPR springs so that spring doens't need to be questioned either. (Though some of the guns sold here at the end of 2011 didn't get the LPR springs swaped out, which makes them shoot a bit harder - very small range between not working and shooting harder than they have too.)

Optimization of consistency over efficiency:
Turn dwell up to about 14. Adjust LPR up until the gun kicks similar to other $1,000 double stacked.
Set to 300 fps.
Turn the dwell down till the speed drops. Turn it back up till speed is 300. Don't worry about the fine dwell setting - just isn't worth the trouble. Never touch dwell again.
Turn LPR down until speed or consistency drops- turn back up till good.
Now always use Inline reg and you are set.
But you have a choice. If you normally have a field limit of say 280 you can do as above at the "field speed" (not 300fps) and have the LPR a bit lower. But when you switch to tournament speed you want to first raise your LPR, because it takes less LPR (by a slight amount) to go 280 than to go 300.

For best efficiency:
Set to 310 fps.
Now work the 10's of a thousand fine dwell till you find the point at where the consistancy or ball speed changes - keep riding that line until you are happy ( or run out of paint ) gun is maybe shooting 305 now +- say 4 (with good paint).
Lower the LPR until the consistency lessons - not the ball speed. You don't care about ball speed - this is for efficiency - so you want the ball speed to keep dropping until you lose consistency.
If you want to shoot 300 you raise the LPR - not the Inline pressure.

For smoothest shot - Turn dwell up to about 14, LPR up until gun kicks. Set gun to 10 fps over field limit.
Turn down Dwell until speed or consistency drops. Turn it back up.
Lower LPR till inconsistent, back up till it's not. If you are below desired speed raise Inline reg and LPR, then lower LPR until inconstant - then back up. Are you at desired speed yet? Just keep working it until you are happy or you run out of paint

I say go with the first way of setting. Easy and very close to both best efficiency and smoothest shot. But to each their own and I have found those that are convinced that the second way and especially the third way are the "right" way of setting "their" gun
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:15 PM #8
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Jack- Am I hearing correctly that a 2004 model alien has the rammer orings replaced after 7-8 years? Also where do I contact someone to get a dealer pricing going? I'm in Texas and would love to get my hands in one ASAP! Thanks
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Jacks post should be stickied... Just saying
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Old 07-07-2012, 04:48 PM #11
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Jack- Am I hearing correctly that a 2004 model alien has the rammer orings replaced after 7-8 years? Also where do I contact someone to get a dealer pricing going? I'm in Texas and would love to get my hands in one ASAP! Thanks
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