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Old 08-11-2012, 01:24 AM #64
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this might be it I was look at it again and on the bolt guide the on the front I see the anndozing is gone.. on one part a feels a little ruff .. might not be letting it seal all the way
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:00 AM #65
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that's common with spoolies; try putting a fresh 013 on and see if it seals up
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Old 08-12-2012, 07:52 PM #66
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do you use high pressure or low pressure tank for this gun?
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Old 08-12-2012, 07:57 PM #67
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do you use high pressure or low pressure tank for this gun?
Sub-600, so mid to low, but not SLP.
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:18 PM #68
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:30 PM #69
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fixed it ...

had some old grease under the 2 13 orings and after reclean it seals up just fine
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Old 08-20-2012, 04:41 PM #70
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Well, mine seems to be leaking from somewhere around the trigger.

I should replace the 1x3 orings according to the guide.

But what size are these? The local proshop will need a "regular" size.
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Well, mine seems to be leaking from somewhere around the trigger.

I should replace the 1x3 orings according to the guide.

But what size are these? The local proshop will need a "regular" size.
you should never really have to replace those orings, just clean them off and re-lube them. 1x3 is the actual size; they're metric.

If it's leaking from around the trigger, it could also be because of the bolt sail oring.....it's 016 fyi.


As a side note, I just had another vapor come in for a leak fix; Just to confirm, the FT screw is the 3rd from the left, 2nd from the right. It's the smallest screw...the one that lines up with the vent hole on the bottom. You should be using the 2nd smallest allen key in your parts kit to adjust it. If you loosen the transfer ports on the back, your vapor will leak. NONSTOP. So don't loosen the transfer ports. Ever. There's no reason to.
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:19 AM #72
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you should never really have to replace those orings, just clean them off and re-lube them. 1x3 is the actual size; they're metric.

If it's leaking from around the trigger, it could also be because of the bolt sail oring.....it's 016 fyi.


As a side note, I just had another vapor come in for a leak fix; Just to confirm, the FT screw is the 3rd from the left, 2nd from the right. It's the smallest screw...the one that lines up with the vent hole on the bottom. You should be using the 2nd smallest allen key in your parts kit to adjust it. If you loosen the transfer ports on the back, your vapor will leak. NONSTOP. So don't loosen the transfer ports. Ever. There's no reason to.


I didn't touch the transfer ports


I've replaced the bolt sail oring (the one all the way back on the pooty bolt) and relubed and checked the two orings that sits just above the trigger. There's still a leak.

And when I'm ramping the marker cant get to 10 BPS. It seems to "choke" when I'm ramping.
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:52 AM #73
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I didn't touch the transfer ports


I've replaced the bolt sail oring (the one all the way back on the pooty bolt) and relubed and checked the two orings that sits just above the trigger. There's still a leak.

And when I'm ramping the marker cant get to 10 BPS. It seems to "choke" when I'm ramping.
I never said you did, the Vapor in my shop however...

and send an email to Tech@MachinePaintball.com and see what they think.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:27 PM #74
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I never said you did, the Vapor in my shop however...

and send an email to Tech@MachinePaintball.com and see what they think.

Thanks a bunch

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Mine was leaking around the trigger out and it was the two port orings in the body from the grip needed lube. Also the annodizing on the bolt guide. My bolt guide tip is worn down and roughed up metal. Contacted machine they said they would be sending out new brittle paint bolts and oring kits for the markers to fix this issue. Great customer service and quick replys. Thanks
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:36 AM #76
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where is the feather touch screw?
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:17 PM #77
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Mine was leaking around the trigger out and it was the two port orings in the body from the grip needed lube. Also the annodizing on the bolt guide. My bolt guide tip is worn down and roughed up metal. Contacted machine they said they would be sending out new brittle paint bolts and oring kits for the markers to fix this issue. Great customer service and quick replys. Thanks

I've replaced and relubed the port orings. Still leaking from somewhere around the trigger though

My bolt tip is also a bit worn down, dose this affect performance?
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:18 PM #78
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where is the feather touch screw?
When you pull the bolt out, you'll see 4 small screws. The Feather touch is the smallest one
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What he said. The FT screw is the smallest screw; 3rd from the left, 2nd from the right.
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my bolt tip also has scratches but it doesnt seem to affect performance or gotten worse.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:08 AM #81
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Okay.

So the leak coming from above the trigger seems to be a leak at the vent hole.

What I've done to try to fix this.

Changed all the orings on the bolt, bolt can, bolt guide including the 4 transfer orings

Changed the two orings above the trigger

Cleaned and lubed the noid.

Cleaned and lubed the HPR.

And there's still a leak if I go above 240 FPS.
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Okay.

So the leak coming from above the trigger seems to be a leak at the vent hole.

What I've done to try to fix this.

Changed all the orings on the bolt, bolt can, bolt guide including the 4 transfer orings

Changed the two orings above the trigger

Cleaned and lubed the noid.

Cleaned and lubed the HPR.

And there's still a leak if I go above 240 FPS.
I could have swore I told you to contact Machine already.

I'd be willing to bet you've got a pinched oring in the noid, which would probably be the same prognosis that machine will give you. The difference is that they'll probably send you a new noid, while I'll just refer you to them.
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I could have swore I told you to contact Machine already.

I'd be willing to bet you've got a pinched oring in the noid, which would probably be the same prognosis that machine will give you. The difference is that they'll probably send you a new noid, while I'll just refer you to them.
Sorry to be such a pain, just want to get my gun working to show the swedish people how the vapor preforms.
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Sorry to be such a pain, just want to get my gun working to show the swedish people how the vapor preforms.
I understand that dude, but you need to talk with Machine about a solenoid issue; I don't have parts (yet) to repair solenoids.
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