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Old 08-09-2012, 11:07 PM #1030
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Spent too long for it then.

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Old 08-09-2012, 11:08 PM #1031
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Honestly, if it isn't in your job description, then they are abusing your skills by not paying you.

I've said similar to my employers in the past.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:16 PM #1032
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Yeah. I think I'm going to sit down with the director of the marketing team and let them know that any future image requests will be invoiced to them. I enjoy the opportunities to do the work, but working for free isn't something I have any interest in doing.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:28 PM #1033
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sue them and get us all banned from shooting PSP.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:32 PM #1034
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Scumbag Skip meme. Needs to happen.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:35 PM #1035
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Scumbag Skip meme. Needs to happen.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:45 PM #1036
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Anytime someone asks me to shoot something, regardless of what it is, I tell them I don't shoot for free. Even if someone asks me to shoot paintball or skateboarding, two of my absolute favorite things to shoot, because they asked me, I am taking time to shoot, so I expect pay. I shoot a boat load of things for free, but it's when I want to shoot, and because I want to shoot it. Not because someone asks me. It's cool that they asked you Carl, that obviously means they recognize your talent. And shooting once to help them out is fine, but anything past that, especially when you feel burnt out or being taken advantage of, you can simply tell them that your busy, and if they want you to shoot something, then you need compensation.

Edit: I like the shot though
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:18 AM #1037
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Yeah. I think I'm going to sit down with the director of the marketing team and let them know that any future image requests will be invoiced to them. I enjoy the opportunities to do the work, but working for free isn't something I have any interest in doing.
Next time you send them photos, make sure they're all proofs. They'll get the message
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man, just watching some random video regarding Hasselblad cameras. The amount of sharpness and detail at 100% crop is just insane.

@10:30 or so should be a good example of it-
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:56 AM #1039
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There's definitely a reason they cost as much as a car, it's a bit more than megapixels.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:30 AM #1040
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Welp, couldn't sleep so i checked online to see if my payment from Amazon finally cleared. Sure enough, it posted and i ordered a new 5d2+24-105L right afterwards with Saturday Delivery.

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Old 08-10-2012, 09:12 AM #1041
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After a 1,500 mile drive through Iowa, Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi, and Florida, I can say that Florida has the ****tiest drivers. Not a single incident where I was at risk of an accident but the minute I get back to FL, cars hydroplaning into the ditch and some stupid lady in a VW bug forgot to check her blind spot before merging into me.
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:10 AM #1042
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That's what I sent over this morning

Giant watermark through the image that says PROOF ONLY NOT FOR COMMERCIAL USE

We'll see where they take it from there.
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Why not go and talk to someone about it in person? Just slapping "proof" on it and sending it with no explanation could be seen as passive aggressive and probably not get the reaction you're looking for. Sitting down casually for a few minutes explaining how this is commercial use outside job description would be more productive so they understand why you want to be paid.
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:55 AM #1044
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After a 1,500 mile drive through Iowa, Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi, and Florida, I can say that Florida has the ****tiest drivers. Not a single incident where I was at risk of an accident but the minute I get back to FL, cars hydroplaning into the ditch and some stupid lady in a VW bug forgot to check her blind spot before merging into me.
Southern drivers are insane in the membrane
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Why not go and talk to someone about it in person? Just slapping "proof" on it and sending it with no explanation could be seen as passive aggressive and probably not get the reaction you're looking for. Sitting down casually for a few minutes explaining how this is commercial use outside job description would be more productive so they understand why you want to be paid.
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Yeah. I think I'm going to sit down with the director of the marketing team and let them know that any future image requests will be invoiced to them. I enjoy the opportunities to do the work, but working for free isn't something I have any interest in doing.
See above.

However, in the meantime I'm placing proof on the image so his department can move forward with their project. Every image they receive from any photographer during development has a proof watermark until final design is approved and the photographer has received payment. Since I've never been paid directly for imaging I usually just send the full-res image to the project lead and forget about it.
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Makes sense now. The way I read it, you were sending the proof as the message and maybe talking to them later. But yeah, extra work should be paid. They'll probably try to pay less than usual for that kind of work. I'd try to find out how much that is and go from there.
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So i needed a place a little more convenient than flickr to display my photos and one that i could eventually transition into a blog or something in the future.
This is a site for designers but works well for photographers too: www.cargocollective.com

still working on mine. Can't quite get the main page the way i want it.
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