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Old 12-29-2003, 02:37 AM #1
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New Hammer Needed ? Suggestions

Im woundering if you guys think its worth my while to change the hammer on my gun .......... The mods I have are in my sig ..........The current hammer is a stock outkast one ...as I converted it to an eblade after I bought it ........If there is a minimal performance factor in changing the hammer , im prob just gonna leave it alone .............thanks

ps...... list the hammer brands recomended
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Old 12-30-2003, 07:42 PM #2
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Old 12-30-2003, 07:47 PM #3
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just leave the hammer alone unless there's a need to change it.
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Old 12-31-2003, 02:57 AM #4
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a freeflow tungsten hammer kit cost 40 bux that comes wiht a light spring so it'll reduce your cocking mass thus making your gun faster. then you can set your lpr pretty low.
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Old 12-31-2003, 12:44 PM #5
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the jackal hi-speed hammer from g3pb.com, best ecocker hammer there is.
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Old 12-31-2003, 04:15 PM #6
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thanks, but if there is no difference in performcane im just gonna leave mine alone ...........my gun already works around 165-170
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Old 12-31-2003, 05:13 PM #7
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there really is no performance change. all of these other nice hammers have built in nylon screws to make sure that the lug doesnt lower under the vibration of shooting rapidly. if your hammer isnt having problems with the lug dropping, skip it.
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Old 12-31-2003, 05:38 PM #8
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thanks dank ..........
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Old 12-31-2003, 06:26 PM #9
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NO there is a performance change. The jackal hammers are lighter, therefore allowing faster cycle speeds.
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Old 12-31-2003, 06:35 PM #10
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NO there is a performance change. The jackal hammers are lighter, therefore allowing faster cycle speeds.
First of all, they arent light enought that it makes a dramatic difference. Second, a hammers weight doesnt matter that much, because they are all right around 40-50 grams. Having a slightly lighter hammer is not going to make the difference of shooting 15 bps to 20 bps at all. So, if your hammer is not being a dick to you, dont get another one. If it is, try loctiting it (BLUE loctite) first. Then get a new hammer if it still gives problems. You can save alot of money to play ball with by not being ignorant and just going with the crowd.
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Old 12-31-2003, 08:51 PM #11
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did you even look at the hammer? Its designed to reduce friction as well as be lighter.
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Old 12-31-2003, 08:59 PM #12
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they are all right around 40-50 grams
not particularly, the Free-flow tungsten hammer is quite a bit heavier, not sure of the weight but its more so than 40-50
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Old 12-31-2003, 09:10 PM #13
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i had problems springing (madman) my stock 2k3 w/ the kapp hammer vs. the stock hammer. my stock hammer was heavier.

to get the kapp hammer to chrono to 280fps i had to use green valve, blue main (note: [green, green] [blue, green] and [blue, blue] didn't work). w/ green valve and green hammer i had to crank the ivg way in!

w/ the stock hammer i used green valve and green hammer. the ivg was only 1 1/2 turns in to get 280fps.

this is w/ sweetspotting my reg everytime. which was 280psi on both hammer/spring combos. stock valve, stock wgp reg w/ aka external cap adjuster.

conclusion:
just polish your stock hammer/lug and use blue loctite on the lug and cocking rod.
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Old 01-01-2004, 02:05 AM #14
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a freeflow tungsten hammer kit cost 40 bux that comes wiht a light spring so it'll reduce your cocking mass thus making your gun faster. then you can set your lpr pretty low.
You're right and you're wrong. Sure the tungsten hammer will let you use a lighter main spring, but it will increase your cycling mass as it's a heavier hammer. This is what allows you to use the lighter spring in the first place. Is it worth it for $40? Not a chance in hell unless your stock hammer is crapping out. Even then I'd get another stock hammer, Eclipse hammer, or something along those lines (Jackel is nice too).
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