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Old 10-01-2014, 10:46 PM #1
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IV Core break in period

Did a quick search and couldn't find anything.

Shoot my Geo 3.0 on Saturday - loved it. Smooth, 7-8 pods, good sound signature. Put the IV core in it on Saturday night (soft tip bolt), went to play on Sunday and wasn't impressed :/ got my 10 pods but the shot was rough (recoil, lift, like an older ego). Just not very happy with it at all. How long has everyone been giving it to break in?

Also, the 14x2 sail is suuuuper tight. Anyone tried a higher dura oring? or maybe a 13.5x2?
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Old 10-02-2014, 04:03 AM #2
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The best thing to do is swap between the 2 cores, on the same day, at the same venue, with the same, tank, paint, loader, barrel and switch back and forth between the two. this is the only way to get a true comparable.

The IVCore should be quieter and feel smoother immidiately. It should not need a break in period to make it feel better than the stock core.

If you are worried about how tight the 14x2 o-ring is, why not try swapping it for the one on your old core? Also check there is nothing in the groove under the o-ring that is pushing it out and making it a tighter fit. You don't want to have it too loose anyway. The looser the o-rings are, the faster the bolt speed and the louder it will make the gun.
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Old 10-02-2014, 05:00 PM #3
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agreed, swap cores see if you can pinpoint differences
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Old 10-02-2014, 07:20 PM #4
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I dropped a core IV in my original geo and noticed an immeadiate difference in it. I have both the Geo2 and GST cores and the core IV was a nice improvement. It needed no break in for me, and no settings needed to be vastly changed. I'm going to actually take some time and tune it in the next few weeks to get the most from it.
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Old 10-02-2014, 07:57 PM #5
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I did that. There was a noticeable difference and it was noticeably worse with the new core.

I'll try swapping the 14x2 - that seems like the main seal. Not sure what else can cause the harder shot/recoil/noise
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Old 10-03-2014, 03:59 AM #6
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You are the only person who has said that the IVCore is louder and harsher than the standard core. And I've heard from a LOT of players.

Are you running it with the SFR all the way down?

Do you have anyone local to you that you can try their IVCore in your gun to try and work out which component is causing the gun to feel how you say it does?
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Old 10-03-2014, 02:03 PM #7
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I would have to say my geo 3 was a lot smoother with less barrel rise then my gsl but I don't mind a little barrel rise for the efficiency gain and if you hold your gun like a man it don't make a difference lol
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Old 10-03-2014, 02:31 PM #8
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^ Much yes! Someone else who thinks complaining about barrel rise or kick = they have a fairy grip hand.
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Old 10-03-2014, 10:28 PM #9
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^ Much yes! Someone else who thinks complaining about barrel rise or kick = they have a fairy grip hand.
For real, it's not like we're talking about an Ak-47 here....
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I'm not complaining about the kick per se... Im just saying it's more noticeable with the new core than without. I'll play with it tomorrow and see what we can come up with. If at the end of the day it's still worse I'll post a video with my gun w/core and w/o and side-by-side with another geo
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Old 10-04-2014, 03:26 AM #11
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I'm not complaining about the kick per se... Im just saying it's more noticeable with the new core than without. I'll play with it tomorrow and see what we can come up with. If at the end of the day it's still worse I'll post a video with my gun w/core and w/o and side-by-side with another geo
Could you post a side by side comparison either way? Haha
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:52 AM #12
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I only had my 3.1 for a short time and maybe put a case through it in that time span. I swapped in the IV Core and immediately felt the difference. Can't say anything about efficiency as I usually refill after every game or two.

What is your solenoid set to?
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Old 10-05-2014, 10:49 PM #13
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People at Mountain View Paintball set up my gun and it's noticeably better. It was kinda a busy weekend but I'm expecting another geo in the mail and will get up a side-by-side
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Glad to hear that you are getting better results.

I purchased an IV core for my Geo+ and the difference was noticible immediately. Smooth soft shots and a softer signature at the same velocity without touching any setting other than the hpr.
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Old 10-09-2014, 10:11 PM #15
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SFR pointing towards you. Turn back cap screw of iv core all the way out then do 4 full turns in (per jack wood for same performance and efficiency as 3.5/gsl) Dwell 23.5 (if your comfortable messing with dwell) cnoddings has a great video on youtube on dwell tuning geo 3. That's my setup and it is AMAZING. Each setup is slightly different with dwell, its a fine tuning process but insanely worth the end results. Ik some ppl don't recommend it.
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What settings for IV CORE should I use for Geo+ ?
The standard dwell in my gun is 14.5, need to raise it above 20?
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I think I read that the stock dwell is at 11ms for the Geo1/+

I bought and installed my IV core yesterday. I had the dwell at 10.5ms, VVC at the stock 4 turns in and chrono at about 290fps.

I was able to bump my dwell down just to 10.5 but anything after that I was getting alot of first shot drop off. I need to play with my settings some more to combat the FSDO.

Best bet, is to buy an extra bag of paint at your field and spend 20mins in the chrono range.
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Sogamember666 thanks for your reply. I will try as you say.
Generally for the Geo+ PE recommended 13,5 - 14.5 because it has a GST KIT and should be increased DWELL about 2 ms compared to a stock Geo.

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As the Geo+ has the GST Kit installed it would be advisable to raise the dwell above the Geo's stock dwell setting of 12.5ms. Anywhere between 13.5 - 14.5ms would be more than sufficient.

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That might be while why I was getting a tad bit of FSDO. Made me miss a couple of good shots this weekend.

Might have to bump mine up a tad.

I don't know of many that have put an IV core in a Geo1/+
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My teammate dropped the iv core into his geo today and had a bit of bolt stick...we raised the dwell 1ms and everything was smooth sailing after that.
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