[ProMod]

that makes a lot of us. patience is key!

[MarkeyMark]

Well since they haven't talked about it, they must be doing a lot to make sure its done right.

[deafblindstupid]

Vapors were shooting amazing last weekend for the palm beach teams

[juggernaught_lives]

Originally Posted by deafblindstupid

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Vapors were shooting amazing last weekend for the palm beach teams

Why weren't you using said Machine Hopper and leaked an accidental photo

[zerokai]

Originally Posted by juggernaught_lives

Why weren't you using said Machine Hopper and leaked an accidental photo

Soon enough young grasshopper, patience. Maybe if you are nice I will send you a pic first.

[ProMod]

Originally Posted by zerokai

Soon enough young grasshopper, patience. Maybe if you are nice I will send you a pic first.

Ken! I have a question for you (more opinion than anything else).

Without revealing anything, how do you think Machine's loader is going to stack up to the new loader that Virtue is hinting at?

[MiniMaster423]

Good question for sure.

[zerokai]

Originally Posted by ProMod

Ken! I have a question for you (more opinion than anything else).

Without revealing anything, how do you think Machine's loader is going to stack up to the new loader that Virtue is hinting at?

If the Virtue loader is as good as they say it will be I am sure it will be a great product. I cant think of anything from Virtue that anyone would say is bad. They have always put a lot of thought and testing in their products. The Clock is nothing short of a redefinition the chrono and its awesome.

With that said I know the way Mike, Jimmy, Bryon and Andrew think; and if the Vapor is any indication of the performance that will come from the loader I honestly believe that it will redefine the way we all think a loader should and does perform not unlike the Virtue Clock did for the chrono.

I also know that they are not going to rush into getting a release until they are 100% certain that it functions and performs to the their standards.

I can tell you that when we get the betas the team will beat the **** out of them and make sure that we get any issues worked out. Who knows we may even allow a few pics to be leaked, just dont tell Drew.

So lets all just be patient, and let the minds work. In time we will all be happy we did.

Ken
PBV

[MiniMaster423]

Originally Posted by zerokai

If the Virtue loader is as good as they say it will be I am sure it will be a great product. I cant think of anything from Virtue that anyone would say is bad. They have always put a lot of thought and testing in their products. The Clock is nothing short of a redefinition the chrono and its awesome.

With that said I know the way Mike, Jimmy, Bryon and Andrew think; and if the Vapor is any indication of the performance that will come from the loader I honestly believe that it will redefine the way we all think a loader should and does perform not unlike the Virtue Clock did for the chrono.

I also know that they are not going to rush into getting a release until they are 100% certain that it functions and performs to the their standards.

I can tell you that when we get the betas the team will beat the **** out of them and make sure that we get any issues worked out. Who knows we may even allow a few pics to be leaked, just dont tell Drew.

So lets all just be patient, and let the minds work. In time we will all be happy we did.

Ken
PBV

Will thy be available separate from the vapors?

[ProMod]

Thanks Ken, you rock!

Originally Posted by MiniMaster423

Will thy be available separate from the vapors?

Some of the first rumors hinted at two different versions; one for the vapor, one for other markers.

more-likely, there's one version that has extra parts for non-vapors. We'll see soon enough.

[MiniMaster423]

Sounds interesting however I don't have choice of hopper due to sponsorship

[tgallo]

So Virtue is making these for Machine?

[MiniMaster423]

Lol no

[zerokai]

The loader is not being made by Virtue, they are making their own hopper.

The Machine loader will be available in 2 flavors. One that will intelligently integrate electronically with the Vapor. Think about the "IntelliFeed" system from some years back; similar to that but the Machine version will actually be intelligent, no ugly wires dangling all over the place and work properly. And one that will work just as amazingly with other lesser guns from other manufacturers.

Ken
PBV

[MiniMaster423]

so im assuming you cant go into any detail at all on how in how it intelligently works?

[zerokai]

If you look into the feedneck of the Vapor you will notice 2 holes just above the eyecovers. Those holes will be used for the contacts where the loader will communicate with the Vapor. The back of the feedneck is notched as a keyway so that the loader wont spin and lose contact.

That is your teaser for the day. More to come soon.

[ProMod]

I think Ken's mouth is being taped over as we speak, but judging upon the holes in the feedneck and eye covers, I'd say it's sync'd to the marker via a physical cable (think RF but not wireless; it'll use a hell of a lot less milliamperes per hour (mAh))

That means your loader is only applying force when the marker is actually firing, so it'll have far less tension on the ball stack than a constant force-feed loader. As a tourney player, this makes me happy; I can actually shoot GI's 3star without turning my loader into a blender xD

[MiniMaster423]

he answered at the same time as you promod lol. Thats epic Ken. I will be at the September CFPS Ken!

[deafblindstupid]

Slight OT...Ken, the new site looks great. kudos to Rick

[juggernaught_lives]

Originally Posted by zerokai

Soon enough OLD grasshopper, patience. Maybe if you are nice I will send you a pic first.

Fixed.

I'm older than you, lol.

[billy1234]

I really just hope the loaders got a nice small profile, wondering about speed feeds, I'm sure companys will make some.