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Old 06-11-2012, 06:49 PM #232
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:03 PM #233
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More pictures, herp derp. Actually handle one, then base an opinion on it. Since we're dragging this here(admittedly, I did that, albeit sort of absent mindedly) the point I STILL have to get accross, is that I was commenting on how the marker performed. For ****s sake youre jsut arguing to argue now.

Ive pissed you off? On the internet? because you choose to base your opinions on never once having something in your hands, but solely because of pictures? I see your point.. the $5 button cover isnt seated perfectly.. Id rather have a marker that shoots better. I give no ****s about button covers. I care about performance.

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Old 06-11-2012, 07:10 PM #234
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:16 PM #235
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got a chance to shoot one. wasnt impressed with the build quality and feel of the gun. shot ok, but i like the feel and feel of the shot from my luxes better.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:16 PM #236
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To be fair. Umami really knows his stuff, but if he hasn't actually held the vapor to make judgment calls.... Poopy
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:21 PM #237
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Egos don't have OLEDs. Having a screen does not make something "OLED". Egos use LCDs which, while they have improved over the years, are still more fragile and less battery efficient than OLED boards.

EDIT: Should have quoted, that was in response to Umami's statement of the Ego having "a more usable OLED"
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:03 PM #238
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To be fair. Umami really knows his stuff, but if he hasn't actually held the vapor to make judgment calls.... Poopy
Youre right, and I told Mr Umami that I do ahve a great deal of respect for him, because he is one of the more intelligent and insightful people on here. I only tried to stress the fact that you cant judge somethings performance until youve handled it yourself.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:03 PM #239
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To be honest , we are all just basically copies of our parents, but you don't see people talking that much **** about us.
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Well...judging by the enormous resale of these pretty much immediately after their release...I'd say a lotta folks aren't impressed by this!
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:18 PM #241
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i think most of us can agree that the Luxe is a great gun, the fact that the vapor is in the same conversation is great for the gun and i'm sure great for business.
go to any car forum and you will see the same type of bickering.
bla bla evo vs sti,
Ferrari vs Lamborghini.
when you have great products it comes down to personal preference.
all i can say is shoot a vapor you'll love it.
and ohh BTW, STI>evo
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:26 PM #242
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....and ohh BTW, STI>evo


As for Vapor Resale, they're trying to move the marker so they can buy something else.....it's a whorish habit that some of us have developed.

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Well...judging by the enormous resale of these pretty much immediately after their release...I'd say a lotta folks aren't impressed by this!
http://www.pbnation.com/reviews/prod...intball_vapor/

no, you're just plain wrong there. The Clone GT is also being re-sold. I wouldn't say people are unimpressed by either marker, they're just like me: they like knowing what it's like to own/use/tune each marker. I've owned just about every marker at one point or another and I can attest to this habit.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:34 PM #243
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Well...judging by the enormous resale of these pretty much immediately after their release...I'd say a lotta folks aren't impressed by this!

Cant judge like that

I love a lot of guns but Ill still sell em. Doesnt mean much other than I like trying other things.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:42 PM #244
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Can somebody describe to me how to use the screw in the back to tune the bolt return to my liking? As well as how it should be used in conjunction with tune assist?
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Egos don't have OLEDs. Having a screen does not make something "OLED". Egos use LCDs which, while they have improved over the years, are still more fragile and less battery efficient than OLED boards.

EDIT: Should have quoted, that was in response to Umami's statement of the Ego having "a more usable OLED"
Well, if you REALLY knew what you were talking about, you would know the Ego uses a transflective LCD, which uses about the same battery power as an OLED because in the sun it doesn't require a backlight.

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Thanks, I think

I'm just judging it on everything but the shot quality. And while the only thing I can base this on is the fact that it's a spool with relatively similar operation, I don't really believe the shot quality of this marker can be THAT much different than a luxe.

If I had to guess, it's going to shoot like a luxe with a bolt about 70-80% of stock mass and a bunch of pneumatic lag in the bolt forward motion because of the large volume the solenoid has to fill, which will make it feel smoother. Hooray pneumatic lag?
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:09 PM #246
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Im not judging it persay based solely on that it just seems that way. Its like seeing everybody buy an Iphone 5 and then suddenly eBay is flooded the next day with LNIB Iphone 5's all over the place. Just like
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:23 PM #248
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Mine should be here in about a week.

The reason people sell things at launch is because silly people will pay extra when they cant find something, or in this case, trade extra.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:23 PM #249
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I can honestly say I have owned four of these and have one right now. For the price your paying your getting quite a bit of marker and extras with it. It does shoot really nice and feels really great in your hands. I would prefer this over a luxe any day. The only ing I do not like is 3 out of the 4 I have gotten have all had issues with them. I know it is a new marker and new company. They have been really helpful and have great CS. When I spend that kind of money though I want it to at least work correctly out of the box. I am keeping one for now but idk how long with the new Geo 3 and possibly a new ego coming soon.
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I can honestly say I have owned four of these and have one right now. For the price your paying your getting quite a bit of marker and extras with it. It does shoot really nice and feels really great in your hands. I would prefer this over a luxe any day. The only ing I do not like is 3 out of the 4 I have gotten have all had issues with them. I know it is a new marker and new company. They have been really helpful and have great CS. When I spend that kind of money though I want it to at least work correctly out of the box. I am keeping one for now but idk how long with the new Geo 3 and possibly a new ego coming soon.
see stuff like that is what I'm saying they sound like bob long guns...inconsistent maaaannn
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:32 AM #252
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the only way i would drop my vapor is if PE came out with a SL geo3 but by then i might have the money anyways lol
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