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Old 06-20-2012, 07:13 PM #22
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so the violent triggers being sold arent upgrades?
any ego feedneck?
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pops asa?


no upgrades available huh
Dial it back just a notch. You seem to want to jump down everyone's throats, if you have something constructive to say by all means add away.

Already has a clamping feedneck, so besides a change of material, remind me what it's upgrading?

POPS ASA? Again it has an on/off so besides a different type of way to cycle the air source how is it an "upgrade"

The Thumb screw for the feedneck... ok that is about the closest to "upgrade" here. And I highly recommend one. Much nicer to not have to use an allen to adjust the clamp on the feedneck.

There are tons of "Aftermarket parts" but that doesn't make them an upgrade. It doesn't alter the performance of the marker so none of what you've listed really is an upgrade, just an optional part.

IMO shoot the gun stock when you get it, do this for a few weeks of play decide what you don't like. Give the gun some time in your hands to decide if the stock trigger is for you (try it set in different ways, lighter pull, heavier pull, closer to the activation point, farther away. Etc.)

There really aren't an performance altering upgrades for the gun yet, but it's only been out for 6ish months. I'm sure we'll see boards and bolts soon. But find out what you don't like before you go changing parts.
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:21 PM #23
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So when you list your gun for sale and you have those aftermarket parts what do you list the as?

Add-on's?

90% of ppl list them as UPGRADES

Even PE lists the AM parts on the Etek as upgrades, so i'd consider them to be UPGRADES...
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:37 PM #24
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So when you list your gun for sale and you have those aftermarket parts what do you list the as?

Add-on's?

90% of ppl list them as UPGRADES

Even PE lists the AM parts on the Etek as upgrades, so i'd consider them to be UPGRADES...
There is no point in arguing symantics of what people call things. The reality is the AM parts do not offer an improved performance over stock parts. If you buy a different style of tail light for your car are you upgrading your tail lights?

The reality and point is there are lots of aftermarket parts for every gun, few upgrade anything.
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:50 PM #25
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yes if you buy LED tail light they are upgrades.. and if you change out the factory cd player with an aftermarket one, it does the exact same thing and doesnt help the car go faster but they add value..

An Upgrade is not just something that adds performace to a gun. When ppl bought ION's the metel body was considered an Upgrade when it did nothing for performance. CP regs are added to guns and considered "UPGRADES" but we have come to find out that the CP reg does not actually help guns perform better.

hell if you base all your "Upgrades" by performance only Bolts are Upgrades, because no other product helps a gun perform better than factory..

triggers
feednecks
barrels
boards
regs

you name it, none of them are upgrades anymore...........

I do agree that there is absolutely nothing that NEEDS to be added to the gun but everyone is different.
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:28 PM #26
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yes if you buy LED tail light they are upgrades.. and if you change out the factory cd player with an aftermarket one, it does the exact same thing and doesnt help the car go faster but they add value..
You are sort of on the path but not entirely... Changing from Standard bulbs to LED increases the light output, and increases the life span of the "bulb". Aftermarket CD Players improve wattage, and add features that most standard head units do not incorporate. So you are upgrading in those instances. Because while not making the car faster in itself you are improving the performance of those components.


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An Upgrade is not just something that adds performace to a gun.
Yes and No. An upgrade should ADD or improve upon what already exsists. not just replace it as the same features, use, etc.. Upgrades should IMPROVE an aspect of the marker, weather it be additional Features (IE boards), how effiecient etc.


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When ppl bought ION's the metel body was considered an Upgrade when it did nothing for performance. CP regs are added to guns and considered "UPGRADES" but we have come to find out that the CP reg does not actually help guns perform better.
3 of 5 items you list can be considered upgrades. Style or personal preferance of feel / asthetics don't constitute an "upgrade"


triggers - comfort - not upgrade
feednecks - Style / appearance (unless you are adding a clamp to a non clamping, then upgrade).
barrels - extra bores/inserts to be able to shoot more sizes of paint consistently = upgrade
boards - If they add features they would be an upgrade.
regs - some regs are upgrades over the stock item (CP is much better than the stock reg on an ion


My point still stands that there aren't really a lot of "upgrades" to what the Etha already has, just a lot of options for extras / "after market" parts.

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I do agree that there is absolutely nothing that NEEDS to be added to the gun but everyone is different.
This is really the key message here.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:12 AM #27
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so does the violent ego thumb wheel fits the etha then? instead of talking about what is and isnt a upgrade how bout we talk bout what fits. i saw a etha said it had red laser eyes in the bst, are these geo eyes or? he never answered my pm.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:28 AM #28
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Etha uses different eyes from Ego/Etek/Geo.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:26 AM #29
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so does the violent ego thumb wheel fits the etha then? instead of talking about what is and isnt a upgrade how bout we talk bout what fits. i saw a etha said it had red laser eyes in the bst, are these geo eyes or? he never answered my pm.
The thumbwheel fits, I tested my Violent on my new Etha and it's the same threads. As with anything, be sure not to put too much torque on it, since the feedneck lever is plastic.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:53 AM #30
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The Etha Boost Kit ( .685 & .689 ) are a good investment to add to the Etha. They are priced at $64.99 for the pair. They are also compatible with the new Etek4 markers. ( Shaft 4 ).
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:08 PM #31
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What I don't understand is why they can't include the composite angled sl3 swivel found on the Etek 4 lt with the Etha.
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:20 AM #32
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The Etha Boost Kit ( .685 & .689 ) are a good investment to add to the Etha. They are priced at $64.99 for the pair. They are also compatible with the new Etek4 markers. ( Shaft 4 ).
In europe, only these boost kit are available :
- 0,689 + 0,693
- 0,685 + 0,693
or, Etha is already delivered with a 0,693...

It is really stupid. I do not want to buy something I already have !

And The only upgrades i want to try are the other Shaft4 kits.
but i do not need 3x 0,693 back...
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:05 AM #33
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Etha Upgrades

Stateside here, Etha Boost Kit is Separate from the Eclipse Shaft 4 Kits.
Even though the milling on the Etha Boost Kit is plain compared to the milling on the Shaft 4 kits, probably explains the difference in cost, and they only come in black. Yet for the Etha and new Etek4, they can use the same backs, since the milling is the same and they are called SHAFT 4.
In your case, I agree, it would be a waste of money spent..!
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:54 AM #34
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Check out the Lapco Fuse barrel. Completely compatible with the Shaft 4.
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Are You sure the that the Back of a fuse Barrel is compatible with the front of a Shaft 4 ?

If yes, i need to check if a French or europeean supplier is dealing that barrel (I'm not sure, it is a very specific barrel...)
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Yes. It was designed to be completely compatible. Reference this thread.
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OMG it is awesome.

I found a dealer in France, i'll take 0,683.

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Old 07-12-2012, 01:42 PM #38
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Thumb screw, yes. Barrel, yes (need a .689 minimum). There is a spring in the trigger that can be taken out and it will up your bps average by about 2.5 (if you're counting). Whoever said it before, the Etha is an amazing marker. If it had been available 2 years ago I never would've paid a few appendages for my Ego!
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:31 PM #39
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I can confirm the post from earlier. Spoke with techt today and they said there would be a bolt setup coming out in the next month or so.
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:04 PM #40
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Gen4 LED boards now available for your upgrading pleasure:
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I can confirm the post from earlier. Spoke with techt today and they said there would be a bolt setup coming out in the next month or so.
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triggers - comfort - not upgrade
feednecks - Style / appearance (unless you are adding a clamp to a non clamping, then upgrade).
barrels - extra bores/inserts to be able to shoot more sizes of paint consistently = upgrade
boards - If they add features they would be an upgrade.
regs - some regs are upgrades over the stock item (CP is much better than the stock reg on an ion


My point still stands that there aren't really a lot of "upgrades" to what the Etha already has, just a lot of options for extras / "after market" parts.


This is really the key message here.
Sure there aren't a lot of upgrades, that's for sure.

But I some what disagree with you on what is an upgrade.

The VP trigger is an upgrade as it has bearings, which the stock Etha trigger doesn't. Yes this is a performance upgrade and makes a difference when shooting semi.

Feedneck, I would say an all metal feedneck is an upgrade, not a performance upgrade, but a material one. It might give it 10g more weight, but its less likely to break.

With the ASA I would go ahead and say that any all metal T-rail ASA would be an upgrade, Don't forget the Etha/Etek4 ASA has the composite ASA Knob and that is the weak point of the design. But once again it is not a performance upgrade, but a material one.
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