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Old 06-22-2012, 12:53 PM #148
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So I re lubed the bolt engine and dry fired it a few times. Now I have a slight hiss of air from the bolt. It's very slight and you can only hear it when you put your ear up to the breach. Pulled out the bolt to make sure all the o rings were good to go. Anyone else run into this?
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Old 06-22-2012, 03:02 PM #149
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what kind of lube? try turning your reg like half a turn in. its still there after you fire?
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Old 06-22-2012, 04:04 PM #150
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Im using Dow 33. I tried adjusting the reg. it stopped, but then it comes back after a few shots.
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Old 06-22-2012, 04:15 PM #151
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Is it brand new? Used? Might want to try the sail oring
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Old 06-22-2012, 04:45 PM #152
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It your tank high pressure?? or have you set it to 400 - 500 psi
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Old 06-22-2012, 05:58 PM #153
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Crap could've been the tank. I purged the air in my ninja and opened it up. It had one red shim in the reg.
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Old 06-22-2012, 06:15 PM #154
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Crap could've been the tank. I purged the air in my ninja and opened it up. It had one red shim in the reg.
Could be, heard they are pretty finicky about input pressures. Just take all the shims out, should put your reg 400-450.
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Ninja says this:

"The shims are located in the bottom “pocket” of the gas distribution body. Due to the
NINJA Regulator being hand crafted and tested the number of silver shims may vary.
• Remove 1 red shim approximate output 650 PSI
• Remove 2 red shims approximate output 500 PSI"
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Old 06-22-2012, 09:53 PM #157
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so as ive read the first thing to do when i recieve it is clean and relube engine with my monkeypoo, close vent, run tune assist, and then up bolt return 5-8ms? is that all that is needed to get it roughly to where it should be?
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Replace the back breech oring with an 017 and verify that the front power-tube oring is an 013. It should seal up perfectly after that. If you're having trouble getting the back breech oring in place, put your engine into the marker and turn it 90* to either side and the back of the bolt should sit right behind the oring groove. That way when you put the oring in it'll sit right into the groove instead of going too far back into the shot chamber

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....so as ive read the first thing to do when i recieve it is clean and relube engine with my monkeypoo, close vent, run tune assist, and then up bolt return 5-8ms? is that all that is needed to get it roughly to where it should be?
You sir, get a gold star!

that's exactly what needs to be done, and it'll be shooting perfectly
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ProMod what is I don't have aftermarket lube will the lube that comes with the gun be ok?!?!?!? Gun will be here tomorrow!
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ProMod what is I don't have aftermarket lube will the lube that comes with the gun be ok?!?!?!? Gun will be here tomorrow!
if your marker comes with lube it will most likely be monkey poo (perfectly fine for the inside of your marker)

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Tony.. what type if orings do you use. I'm about to order a full set?
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:20 AM #162
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Tony.. what type if orings do you use. I'm about to order a full set?
just good quality BN70 unless otherwise specified..... (BN90 for 015 (external tank orings) and bumpers)
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:21 PM #163
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How do you run tune assist? What's the vent that needs to be closed?
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How do you run tune assist? What's the vent that needs to be closed?
Program menu- scroll down to tune assist- follow the menu. You'll need air in your tank.

The vent is where that puff of air shoots out and hits your hand when you fire
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Np. If you don't mind the air.. great! Others here have turned what would be the equivalent of the luxes manifold screw (remove core, smallest screw facing you, third one down) all the way in.. run tune assist, bump bolt return up 5-8ms. So when all is said and done. Dwell should be around 10-12, bolt return low 30's ish?
Promod is working on a tuning guide *soon I hope :-)* that should address everything.
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I should be getting mine on thursday, and when I do get it what's the first thing I should do to the gun? Just air up get some paint and play or should I lube up everything first? Thanks for the info......
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:19 PM #168
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I should be getting mine on thursday, and when I do get it what's the first thing I should do to the gun? Just air up get some paint and play or should I lube up everything first? Thanks for the info......
Well there are two different ways of approaching it. PERSONALLY, Im a fan of airing it up and shooting it first just to see what Im working with. To me it's like buying a car and before you even drive it, you order mods for the engine. You might like the way it drives as is!

Second approach is, yes, remove the core, wipe it down and re-lube it first. THEN shoot.

Whatever you pick is absolutely your choice. Either way it should be fine. I just wouldn't start messing with dwell and bolt return time right off the bat.

Once you've done either of the above, tune it to your liking using methods talked about in this thread ie bolt return, adjustment screw, dwell etc...
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