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Old 09-29-2012, 12:11 PM #400
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When saying best, are we talking efficiency? or in general like smoother shot, dwell amount etc etc (can i hear a sigh from jim? lol)
Best is kind of a tuff term to describe in this situation lol. The eigen's valve is placed so it opens and closes faster than other shocker bolt valves which is why an HE oring is useless in its design. And this is why it works best with stock parts, the valves location is placed specifically where it needs to be to accomplish this a bolt guide thats stock length (stock, hybrid, bloodline etc.) and because it opens and closes so fast it fires a pretty fixed volume of air just like an HE bolt but in a much better way since it has a larger volume of air with the sft can,no extra oring causing excess drag. And possible tollerance issues resulting in a smoother, quieter more efficient shot.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:08 PM #401
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And the cans air is being used for more than just propelling the ball so the larger reserve could result in better consistency. Plus a lower pressure without the risk of sacrificing efficiency, for reasons Jim said.
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Best is kind of a tuff term to describe in this situation lol. The eigen's valve is placed so it opens and closes faster than other shocker bolt valves which is why an HE oring is useless in its design. And this is why it works best with stock parts, the valves location is placed specifically where it needs to be to accomplish this a bolt guide thats stock length (stock, hybrid, bloodline etc.) and because it opens and closes so fast it fires a pretty fixed volume of air just like an HE bolt but in a much better way since it has a larger volume of air with the sft can,no extra oring causing excess drag. And possible tollerance issues resulting in a smoother, quieter more efficient shot.
New shocker owner so forgive the ignorance.

The differences I know between the NXT and SFT come from here.

As I understand from here, the NXT comes with the HE bolt (ie. the Supercharger) stock. It includes a new bolt, fire chamber, and bolt guide compared to the SFT.

The Eigenbolt, from what I've read, increases efficiency. As for smoothness, some seem to say it improves it; others say it stays the same.

My planned setup was:
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-stock NXT fire chamber
-stock NXT bolt sleeve

So, if I understand correctly, to maximize efficiency/reliability I should search out a stock SFT fire chamber? Thanks.
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Yes, get an sft can. The HE has an extra lip on the inside for the HE oring to seal against, but the eigen doesn't use that oring so the lip is just waisted volume.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:22 PM #405
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^^^ yup and heres a nice cheap sft can for you to shorten your search

http://armorypaintball.com/products/...2d-Silver.html
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While we're on the subject of increasing the volume, how far should we be trying to go? Would an LP bolt guide be beneficial at all, or is it beyond the necessary extra volume? If it's a case of "get as much volume as you possibly can," maybe Pooty actually has something worth getting.

I'd be happy if getting an SFT can was all we need, cause you know, less money and all.
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Old 09-30-2012, 12:47 AM #407
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I'd recommend making your own out of an '03 guide vs spending what pooty is asking for his. Here is one cs900 made next to one I've started at. They too can be had for pretty cheap. I've thought about making a super duper uber ultra low pressure can to test the "how much is too much" question.
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I had a dream last night that eigen bolts were sold In pink and sky blue....
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I definitely wouldn't be against making my own, I just really, really like tool-less. Guess I'll have to pick up a tool-less bolt guide on the cheap and start messing with that one. Or I might just lop off the guide itself, make a new one, and stick that on the back cap, who knows.
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I believe it was either Cs900 or Ccluff made an awesome tooless mod, using a soda bottle cap, some glue, rubber coating, and a drill. I'll see if I can find the link.

Edit: Found it.
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I believe it was either Cs900 or Ccluff made an awesome tooless mod, using a soda bottle cap, some glue, rubber coating, and a drill. I'll see if I can find the link.

Edit: Found it.
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haha. That was awesome! I remember when that thread first popped up.
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any idea if an LPR would affect the way one of these bolts works? I have an Evil LPR on one of my Shockers...
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Ha! I love it. Time to break out the bottle caps.
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any idea if an LPR would affect the way one of these bolts works? I have an Evil LPR on one of my Shockers...
Pointless, but probably won't hurt anything.
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Pointless, but probably won't hurt anything.
Lol I know LPR's are basically useless. I mostly have it to confuse kids at the field.
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he probably already has them and is dealing with Q&A as well as sorting and organizing bolts for those that have returned theirs. He probably won't say anything until he has an idea of how many are left over and he's ready to post to his website.
and once again I'll reiterate. I hope I'm around to catch one of these before they're gone. cause who knows how long it'll take for him to EVER get another batch done once, not if, but once the leftovers from this batch sell out.
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