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Luxe 2.0 33 42.86%
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:52 AM #1
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G6R 2012 vs Luxe 2.0

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so I'm hesitating between these 2 awesome guns (Bob Long G6R 2012 and Luxe 2.0).

Just want to have some advises and opinions...


What is important for me?

accuracy: important
smothness: important
maintenance difficulty: important
price: not important
air effeciency: not important

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Old 05-13-2012, 07:12 AM #2
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I hate boblong guns because he over engineers them. More completcated gun= more problems most of the time thats why down in newbrunswick canada no
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:34 AM #3
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couple teammates been running the g6r's since they came out, no problems, shoot awesome, they don't maintain them as much as they should but they always work. Havent seen any go down at the tournaments either. The luxe seems to have more issues and players constantly working on them and they go down more often than other high end guns at the events. Most likely a lack of setting them up correctly though. Just an input and my observation.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:47 AM #4
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accuracy: important- the one you get the barrel kit for to underbore (so equal there)

smothness: important-the luxe is the spoolie so it will be smoother, but the g6r is pretty high up there

maintenance difficulty: important-the g6r will have more maintenance at the start of the day for the pressure testing, and the luxe will have more at the end of the day. minute for minute the luxe will have a bit more, but barely

air effeciency: not important- the g6r will get a case+ and the luxe will get like 10 pods on a 68/45 so it is fairly even


the g6r should have a slp/lp reg on it, so if you dont have one just look into a ninja reg since they are rebuild-able; this way if you get a new gun you can just add some shims back and you dont have to worry about a new reg.


edit: how does BL over-engineer something? doesnt that mean he's doing a good job putting the most effort into the gun as he can so it will outperform everything at a cheaper price? id rather have lightly more maintenance required for a gun (if you really find it difficult to tune your gun everyday to have it shoot 100% of its capabilities)
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:22 AM #5
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If you want a poppet, get the G6R. If you want a spool, get the Luxe. IMO, the G6R is more comfortable in the hands, has the OLED board, more efficient, easier to maintain, more reliable since is uses less orings, and it is 500 bucks les (more money for paint, or a good hopper, tank, or mask if you needed it). In terms of smoothness, the luxe is only a little smoother than the G6R, but the difference won't affect your shooting.
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Old 05-14-2012, 02:31 AM #6
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First thanks for all these advices and comments...

miyo00124... Like azhector, I don't understand how it's possible to over-engineer a gun ?
That's what is important after all: that the gun is the most performant as possible, with good stuff in it. Even if it's a little bit difficult to maintain and troubleshoot.
That's like cars, good ones need attention... And nice women too lool. And if I wanted an easy-simple gun, I would have taken a tippman A5 and saved some money ^^.
And I'm not sure that Luxe is so different on that point. Heard that is also a "complicate" gun... Correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks 4banger, comment like that really help !

Azhector... About the LP reg, I already have a stako with a high pressure reg on it, but I will sell it (especially when u know that this fu..ing bottle is over after 5 years and mine already has 2 years). So I think it's a good idea to sell it now and take a bottle with a longer life.

monkeyballer099639, I don't really care if it's a spool or a poppet. And you are right, I don't believe that just a little bit more smoothness worth the 500usd !

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Old 05-14-2012, 10:42 AM #7
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Question- as often as I hear people bring up the G6R efficency how many people can confirm that they really will shoot 2000+ off a 68/4500?

Only video I have seen do that is Bob's video and I can't take that as something the normal user will get. His could have been tuned to absolute perfection to get that.
Every single other vid I've seen has come short of matching his results.
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Old 05-14-2012, 11:33 AM #8
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I've also seen this vid and wasn't very convinced. I think he had some pods half empty...

But still, even if it is not so efficient as they want us to believe on this vid, it's still very very efficient, I have no doubt on that.

Hope we will have another guy to spend some money on paintballs to do a complete efficiency test with his g6r and come here tell us about it ^^
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It comes down to tuning

I have a luxe 1.0 with pooty core, no feather touch screw and adjusted manifold, gun shoots super smooth and quiet

Now I had to find the proper orings and proper lubing method to get the gun to shoot like this. I had to adjust my settings and what not. But now its good to go, ball on ball.

I also had a G6R (another en route) I had an lp Ninja tank, never had issues with it, lubed it up and shot it. Yes you need dow55, yes the LP poppit makes it smoother

Both are great guns, comes down to air effiiciency and gun style. You want stacked tubed poppet or a single tube spool
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I've also seen this vid and wasn't very convinced. I think he had some pods half empty...

But still, even if it is not so efficient as they want us to believe on this vid, it's still very very efficient, I have no doubt on that.

Hope we will have another guy to spend some money on paintballs to do a complete efficiency test with his g6r and come here tell us about it ^^
Oh make no doubts, I'm sure it's a very very efficient marker. Just never seen anyone except BL himself get the 2000 shots off of a 68/45 like everyone claims
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Oh make no doubts, I'm sure it's a very very efficient marker. Just never seen anyone except BL himself get the 2000 shots off of a 68/45 like everyone claims
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UMcywS93oc

think this would be the most reputable video; they tested almost 13 pods which is almost a full case; now i dont think he talked about underboring, but if it appears to be the stock barrel, so id imagine that would be the extra pod or 2 to break the 2k shot mark
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I shot a g6r this weekend for a few games and shot 5 pods and a hopper off of a 56/4500 tank. pressure was a tad over 4k when started and right around 2k or little under when done. I think a full 68/4500 would come close if not the full 2k rounds




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Question- as often as I hear people bring up the G6R efficency how many people can confirm that they really will shoot 2000+ off a 68/4500?

Only video I have seen do that is Bob's video and I can't take that as something the normal user will get. His could have been tuned to absolute perfection to get that.
Every single other vid I've seen has come short of matching his results.
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I shot a g6r this weekend for a few games and shot 5 pods and a hopper off of a 56/4500 tank. pressure was a tad over 4k when started and right around 2k or little under when done. I think a full 68/4500 would come close if not the full 2k rounds
5 pods+hopper= about 900 rounds

you used about 1/2 a tank... now your at 1600 (i rounded down forya)

add 12ci and your adding about 15% of air (rough math) so its possible; i think it comes to down your situation, how the gun is chrono'd at, if your underboring, pressure tested right, slp or hp, etc.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UMcywS93oc

think this would be the most reputable video; they tested almost 13 pods which is almost a full case; now i dont think he talked about underboring, but if it appears to be the stock barrel, so id imagine that would be the extra pod or 2 to break the 2k shot mark
13 pods, if filled to 140 as much pods fill too, equates to about 1820 rounds. And in the last couple of seconds of the video he says "We got almost 12 pods" not 13.
The most accurate vid I saw by StickitToDrum had about 13 pods and it only came out to about high 1700s. Now thats still great but not the 2000+ everyone claims they can get so easily

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I shot a g6r this weekend for a few games and shot 5 pods and a hopper off of a 56/4500 tank. pressure was a tad over 4k when started and right around 2k or little under when done. I think a full 68/4500 would come close if not the full 2k rounds
Again back to the same problem though...guesstimates
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13 pods, if filled to 140 as much pods fill too, equates to about 1820 rounds. And in the last couple of seconds of the video he says "We got almost 12 pods" not 13.
The most accurate vid I saw by StickitToDrum had about 13 pods and it only came out to about high 1700s. Now thats still great but not the 2000+ everyone claims they can get so easily



Again back to the same problem though...guesstimates

I guess you need to borrow a g6r and burn 50 dollars worth of paint through it so you can know for sure. lol. I cant remember shooting near 2000 rounds through my gun in a match, unless you go all the way back to 10 man with 114 ci tanks.
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i agree with almost everything said except luxes are way more accurate the 2k12s drop off to the sides for cross feild shots
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Absolute absurdity. Generically it is almost identical to all other stacked tube poppets ever made (since he pretty well brought them mainstream): hammer, poppet, bolt, LPR, HPR and board. If that is "over-engineered" then so also is, well... the FX, borgs, egos, 09 impulses and all alien guns + some others I'm sure I missed.
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Hi,

What is important for me?

accuracy: important
smothness: important
maintenance difficulty: important
price: not important
air effeciency: not important
Accuracy: all markers are tied, the marker makes not one iota of difference.
smoothness: Luxe is smoother, but for a poppet, the G6R is insanely smooth
Maintenance: G6R requires the pressure testers, Luxe is far more orings to grease. IMO, it's a tie here.

For me, it would come down to Ergos, and the Luxe is one of the least comfortable markers I've ever shot, so I'd go G6R.
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Oh make no doubts, I'm sure it's a very very efficient marker. Just never seen anyone except BL himself get the 2000 shots off of a 68/45 like everyone claims
Well you know 2 people know I got an entire case off of my g6r this weekend , I didn't get to play last weekend so I was just tunning it and bam !
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Luxes are very heavy and the g6r are the lightest. They both shoot very smooth i love the g6r and i love the luxe but it is too heavy(im very small)
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