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Old 05-07-2012, 11:05 PM #106
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:37 PM #107
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That's still pretty crazy, I would not have liked being that reciever. But we're lucky to get tankers scheduled around here, ya'll are busy dudes.
We flew to Japan just to take those 6 F-15s to AK. We had opportune cargo on two legs but we took 330k just to fly from Japan to AK with 6 fighters.
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:39 PM #108
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And did I mention Kadena is a -135 base?

I don't think they have the range we do.

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Old 05-08-2012, 12:45 AM #109
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Regular pilot weighing in - The dudes are right to not want to fly the F-22. We're trained to identify hypoxic symptoms with ourselves and others. They're getting so impaired so quickly they cannot. That's pretty scary stuff. So is it worth it to place them in such a risky spot for training? Nope. Is it worth it to fix the F-22? Yes. That thing is a phenomenal platform and everyone knows it. But it should not be the entire cadre out there, we don't need to kill off a bunch of young, inexperienced single seat guys to figure this out.
It's pretty ridiculous when they get reprimanded for not wanting to die. If they wanna get strict about, then the person making the decisions can hop in the pilots seat and fly and he can kill himself if he wants. It's bull****. The birds aren't in combat, there is no reason they need to risk anything. Would it be possible to replace the current system to accept the oxygen system the other planes have?
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Least you won't go crashing down in a 340million dollar airplane. It doesn't cost that much to replace you.



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Hypoxia isn't a long term problem. Just saying.
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No, but it can turn your world upside down very fast. What I don't understand is how that pilot scraped tree tops on final. If he was less than 10,000 feet he shouldn't have had hypoxic symptoms. From my limited experience I don't want to wear that mask any more than I had to. So once below 10k I'd take that **** off.
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We've had pilots here (where the two VAANG pilots are stationed) be so out of it on final that they had to be lifted out of the cockpit by crash and fire personnell. His approach wasn't pretty at all, and his wingman was flying along side him the whole way down.

And since when is NDI exposed to even weather? But he is right. I live in carcinogen land. Had folks who were -117 and B2 guys back in my old shop who were going through chemo. I just burried a good man back in December after a long battle with cancer (He was a -22 for a long time). It's not a fun future to look forward too. I don't trust our charcoal filters one bit, especially with how long we are exposed to fine particals. (With the amount of use the filters get, we should be changing them every 2-4hrs, but people [i.e. higher ups] insist they are good for 48hrs of use. **** NO!)
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THIS.

I've told a few SNCO's that I'm not lifting heavy items by myself without a dolly/hand truck or what have you. or without help. I'm not straining my back for some piece of junk. **** that. they can get angry and mad b but it's my body.
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Not really sure it's worth it. My old man has back issues and he constantly plagues him. I don't think the benefits would outweight the problems.
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Sometimes ~$500/month isn't worth not being able to move faster than a 90 year old man.

My wife collects $1200/ month for her sleep apnea, back hip/back, and asthma, all caused by the AF. I'm sure she would gladly trae that in to be able to breath, sleep and move around better.
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Not trying to come off as a dick, but how does one get sleep apnea? Is it developed over time or from certain strains on the body?
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Al Qaeda reads this web, site now they have all the INTEL needed. these Tanker crews carrying cameras and throwing out figures might as well just Air drop FIM-92 Stingers to them
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A Msgt ow civilian I work with has sleep apnea and has to wear a machine every night, sleep apnea is some serious ****aki
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