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Old 05-15-2012, 06:56 AM #316
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Crane: just an fyi next time ask to see LEO credentials. Ask to see a badge AND ID card. You can request two forms of LE creds so you cab positively ID they're a cop. Also they have to identify themselves if they are not in a marked uniform. As in, if they don't have a badge and a uniform with county/state patches you cannot reasonably identify then as a LEO.

Also, you can get that girl for battery. It would be a long shot but you at least avoided the hassle by informing them. Also:

Talk to the restaurant manager/owner

Complain or threaten to complain to the BBB

Just keep walking. If a "cop" detains you ask for creds in a respectful manner if you cannot reasonably identify them.

If all else fails, claim that person violated your rights. You have the right to refuse service or refuse payment pending a claim or a complaint. You cannot be expected to pay for a service since you did not willingly agree physically or verbally to such services.




If I was you I would kept walking. 8 dollars for a night in jail is well worth the civil suit against the city and the business owner.
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Crane: just an fyi next time ask to see LEO credentials. Ask to see a badge AND ID card. You can request two forms of LE creds so you cab positively ID they're a cop. Also they have to identify themselves if they are not in a marked uniform. As in, if they don't have a badge and a uniform with county/state patches you cannot reasonably identify then as a LEO.

Also, you can get that girl for battery. It would be a long shot but you at least avoided the hassle by informing them. Also:

Talk to the restaurant manager/owner

Complain or threaten to complain to the BBB

Just keep walking. If a "cop" detains you ask for creds in a respectful manner if you cannot reasonably identify them.

If all else fails, claim that person violated your rights. You have the right to refuse service or refuse payment pending a claim or a complaint. You cannot be expected to pay for a service since you did not willingly agree physically or verbally to such services.




If I was you I would kept walking. 8 dollars for a night in jail is well worth the civil suit against the city and the business owner.
Dude come on. If he would have kept walking he would have taking a beating/tasing and it would have been for nothing. It's your word versus the cops. Who do you think is going to win? It's his word (possibly intoxicated) versus the business worker, who do you think the cop is going to believe?

He did the absolute right thing. Pretty sure he didn't want to hang around NO for a couple weeks/months waiting for his day in court for the misdemeanors.
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That's why I say if he says he's a cop to check his creds because he said the dude didn't look like a cop. If I had any doubt I would check. I say keep walking if the chick didn't call someone over.

A reasonable cop would listen to the circumstances surrounding the event and notify the manager/owner and find their policy. If there was any disagreements I would find a witness. Yes it is the officer's word against theirs but the officer should use objective reasonableness when in this investigation to discover what happened.

Crane: take what I said with a grain of salt but always dig deeper than the surface, grab someone that runs the establishment, and always ask for LEO creds if you cannot reasonably identify that person. If he was a security guard I would have waited for the police and filed a report. That is all I was aying. Tell your wife to find someone in the mouth next time.?
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How much would one need to budget to build a decent full suspension trail bike with hydraulic brakes? I don't need top of the line anything but don't want super cheap either. Also wheres a good place to buy?
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Air Force Discussion Thread V.whatever... the new mountain bike thread

this has been happening in the Subaru thread also :/
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How much would one need to budget to build a decent full suspension trail bike with hydraulic brakes? I don't need top of the line anything but don't want super cheap either. Also wheres a good place to buy?
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Frame would be the most expensive part, usually followed by the fork. If it's trail, no need to go crazy and get a crazy amount of shock travel. I'd say probably close to 800-1000 dollhairs.
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www.pinkbike.com <-- Great classifieds. Just picked up my buck for less than $500. Full suspension, fox shox in the rear, manitou forks, other goodies. You can find frames and parts on there too.
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Love it when airlift slips going out for once instead of coming back.
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Love it when airlift slips going out for once instead of coming back.
Slips make my job easier, it gives me more time to do my job. Sometimes, that's what I need.
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professionally? you have a doctors note and a broken wrist... or are you talking about under/over the collar? Whichever one allows the collar to still lay flat.
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Speaking of broken wrist. Crashed and rolled in Kandahar back in December. Felt sore but stuck out the rest of the deployment. Got back in Feb. Went to doc end of Feb. Xrayed and said they would call if they saw anything. No call so sucked down the motrin and pressed. Went to physical end of april. Wrist was still aching so asked about it, doc pulled out the xray and gave it and me a weird look.
Asked me if anyone called me because I fractured it. RAGE! Oh and the motrin they prescribed was actually inhibiting the bone healing process as well.
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Thus why I go off base for any medical ****. **** air force docs.
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Thus why I go off base for any medical ****. **** air force docs.
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Thus why I go off base for any medical ****. **** air force docs.
I haven't had any problems with them, yet...
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Yeah obviously but Tricare isn't going to pay for active duty folk being seen downtown without a referral.
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Yeah obviously but Tricare isn't going to pay for active duty folk being seen downtown without a referral.
here you have to live a certain distance from base to be able to get off site care or the whole danger to life and limb thing.
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I haven't received any feedback on my draft OPR yet... kinda worried but the ball isn't in my court.
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^yea..but that's a pretty smooth trail dude...throw some bumps on there that you almost always have on a mountain bike trail and I would be hating life...
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