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Old 07-22-2015, 10:35 PM #1
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Have a Z2, looking towards R2, TFX or Spire.

I currently have a prophecy z2 hopper. It works great and feeds well. It has never jammed on me or broke paint. In that regard, it's a great loader.

My issue is the shell. For those who don't know, the z2 shell breaks up into three parts. That's not the problem. The problem is where it separates. If you get hopper hits, specifically near the feedneck, because of the way the shell separates, paint can enter the bottom of the hopper and splash the drive system. I've had to clean the electronic board of paint.

What makes this a pain is the drive system can be a pain to disassemble to clean. To fully remove it, you have to deal with e-clips and it's generally a hassle (at least in my opinion).

So I am looking at the r2, tfx and spire. They all have solid bottoms so paint can't splash inside. My question to those who have these loaders, do paint ever get under the tray?

I am looking for a reliable, simple to clean, easy to disassemble loader.

With that in mind, what would you suggest?
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Old 07-23-2015, 07:30 AM #2
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I personally like Rotors but that is just me.
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I've owned Rotors and Spires, and have never had an issue with paint getting onto the circuit board of either.

I would presume the new Rotor 2 is similar in this due to the design.

I can't speak to the TFX, I've never owned one.
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Old 07-23-2015, 09:36 AM #4
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Tbh I wouldn't waste the money on a new hopper when you have a solid z2. If it is really a big deal for you, rape the seams, otherwise just clean it more thoroughly when needed.

I only say this because those other hoppers are equal at best to your z2, with their only benefit for considerable cost is a little better sealed shell..

But if you want to spend the money, I'd probably go rotor 2. I always loved the rotor but hated the jams. I understand the r2 features some design improvements and I'd like to see how it performs.
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Never had a jam on either of my rotors and both mine are V3 just saying.
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Old 07-23-2015, 11:39 AM #6
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It is great your Rotor doesn't jam and you can rave about it. But there are those that own Rotors that do jam.

Maybe if you trade your non jamming Rotor with owners that have jamming Rotors, you may not be so happy with a jamming Rotor.
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Old 07-23-2015, 12:18 PM #7
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My r2 was covered in paint spray/hits at ION and no paint made it inside. Since gun hits didn't count I just used it as a shield lol

I have no experience with the other 2 but I'd imagine they would be perfectly fine.
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It is great your Rotor doesn't jam and you can rave about it. But there are those that own Rotors that do jam.

Maybe if you trade your non jamming Rotor with owners that have jamming Rotors, you may not be so happy with a jamming Rotor.
Just relaying my experience with my Rotors not running down other loaders sorry if it offends you
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Old 07-23-2015, 01:55 PM #9
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The splash resulted from a hit near/at the feedneck. I think it got hit twice there. All other hits never got paint inside. I know it's probably rare for it to happen but I still think it's a design flaw.

I'm going to the shop to check these hoppers and will open them up to see what works for me. But it helps to get some different feedback and perspectives.
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Old 07-23-2015, 02:12 PM #10
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What would be nice if you could borrow each loader from friends and see what works best for you but maybe you don't have friends like that. Spires are good loaders as well don't know anything about the HK loader haven't seen one in person yet
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Old 07-23-2015, 02:24 PM #11
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The r2 and tfx is fairly new so I haven't seen too many, if any in the wild.
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The R2 IMO is to expensive if I were buying a Rotor I would get a V3 but that is just me and the TFX just too new still working out bugs. I also think the Spire 260 is to high as well I found both of my Rotors for less than $115 shipped new. Just start watching and you will find a good deal. But don't just base your decision on my opinions. Good luck
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Old 07-23-2015, 08:42 PM #13
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Just relaying my experience with my Rotors not running down other loaders sorry if it offends you
That guy has a pathological hatred for Rotors, just take it with a grain of salt.
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Old 07-24-2015, 01:13 AM #14
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Nah the gripes against Rotors are legitimate. Very picky about the paint you feed through them. Doesn't like the cheaper practice paints that I run through it, then with humidity it just compounds to the issue. Stock arm, virtue soft cycle, adjusted tension screw, bent roller switch, new batteries, nothing works to fix it. Now if you're always running fresh, quality paint through them, they are phenomenal loaders. However, because of the issues that plague my loader at practice, I'm looking for something to replace it.
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Old 07-24-2015, 11:24 AM #15
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I have never seen a Rotor choke like you guys describe.

I must be the luckiest SOB ever.
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Old 07-24-2015, 11:38 AM #16
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I must be also mine are awesome and several of my friends have them and the never go down
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I must be also mine are awesome and several of my friends have them and the never go down
This is my experience, regardless of paint (within reason) and in most weather.
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Old 07-24-2015, 01:08 PM #18
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all the teams I've played on for the past 4 years we've used rotors with minimal to zero jamming problems. Also don't shoot anything lower than empire paint or GI 3star
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We use cheap paint usually $20 or $30 paint without issue
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The Rotor could be a great tool to determine bad paint. If the Rotor can not feed it, it should be flagged as defective and not to be used in other loaders.

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Well lucky you guys because that's the opposite of my experiences, with not just 1, 2, or 3 but 4 different rotors.
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