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Old 04-23-2012, 07:46 PM #43
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Look at this they have the home field, home field factory team playing, home field refs, and home field coaching and ur telling me there nothing wrong with tht.
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Although you may not believe me, yes they are EPL's own ref's and NOT LVP ref's
False. The refs at the Mid-Atlantic event were the same local refs who worked the field all of last year. They were NOT the same refs used at LVP.


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Look at this they have the home field, home field factory team playing, home field refs, and home field coaching and ur telling me there nothing wrong with tht.
Nope. In the end they still have to make the shots and make the moves. NEVER leave a game in the refs hands and this never becomes an issue.
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False. The refs at the Mid-Atlantic event were the same local refs who worked the field all of last year. They were NOT the same refs used at LVP.
The refs that worked the tri state open this past Sunday are the same refs that worked all of the north dates last year and the same refs that will work all the north dates this year. With a few exceptions, I'm sure, but for the most part it's the same crew.

They do not play at lvp. Have they played there before? Yes. Not regulars
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Look at this they have the home field, home field factory team playing, home field refs, and home field coaching and ur telling me there nothing wrong with tht.
Just another person who knows nothing about what is going on lol, you guys are great. Please, by all means keep this going hahahaha strokes!
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first off i would like to thank chad, EPL, and all of the refs for being there and running the event as smoothly as possible.

secondly i played in the finals against philly and it was an intense and very competitive match. they played well and worked well together. i will say only 1 thing because they are factual and what i was told were the rules as the captains meeting.
1) any hits that are not on the pack is considered an obvious hit.
i say this because one of the players that bunkered me to close out a game had a hit on his back and played on. that right there is a 2 for 1 penalty which was never called and i showed the hit to the ref as soon as the flag was hung. also i was taunted which is a penalty in the psp rule book and where which is epl GETS their rules from.

in addition to that i believe that the day of the tournament all chronos should have batteries replaced or made sure they are working fine because it seemed like there were a lot of gun penalties that should have showed up before getting on the field. also i feel that epl should check the rankings in both nppl and on appa to make sure that players are truely ranked at the correct division.
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In regards to you being taunted, you told a person in 3 man to eat it. That person also happens to be Jeff trainer, a share holder and head of marketing for the NPPL, that was why, an only why, you were taunted.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:33 PM #49
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JJ, im not gonna push this any farther. What it comes down to is that you were beat and you dont like to lose. You have passion for the game and hunger to win. People admire that. But poor sportsmanship throws all that out the window real quick

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first off i would like to thank chad, EPL, and all of the refs for being there and running the event as smoothly as possible.

secondly i played in the finals against philly and it was an intense and very competitive match. they played well and worked well together. i will say only 1 thing because they are factual and what i was told were the rules as the captains meeting.
1) any hits that are not on the pack is considered an obvious hit.
i say this because one of the players that bunkered me to close out a game had a hit on his back and played on. that right there is a 2 for 1 penalty which was never called and i showed the hit to the ref as soon as the flag was hung. also i was taunted which is a penalty in the psp rule book and where which is epl GETS their rules from.

in addition to that i believe that the day of the tournament all chronos should have batteries replaced or made sure they are working fine because it seemed like there were a lot of gun penalties that should have showed up before getting on the field. also i feel that epl should check the rankings in both nppl and on appa to make sure that players are truely ranked at the correct division.
have you read the rule book? Cuz i did. 6 times. If you talked to a ref afyer you were called out or "inactive" as stated in the rules, that is a 1 for 1 on you. Which since you were the last man alive and got stitched, it would have resulted in a penalty minute in a game you had won. Therefor sir, you are wrong. A hit on the actual pack itself is deemed unobvious but a hit on the belt of the pack is obvious. Also, bringing up your shpeal on classification. EPL uses the APPA to classify players. A player in the EPL could be ranked D4 in APPA but could be ranked semi pro in some other classifying program.

Lastly, so that everyone stops with the whole teammate reffing thing. I was the one who was reffing. I offered to volunteer my time and work to Chad and the EPL. He was very appreciative. I was told i was only allowed on the blue field which i stayed on all day. I reffed 1 match of 5 man which was with the sexy cabana boys and some other team i did not know. I was standing on the blue field in between games woth the head ref, ultimaye ref, and another ref named Terry i believe when the whole **** fit of "teammate reffing" wemt down on the red field. We all looked at each other and couldnt believe what we were hearing. I was standing next to Chad HIMSELF during the semi finals and finals of the 5 man. During the quaryer finals i was helping tear down the blue field.
If anyone needs more proof, there were atleast 20 other people ranging from the other refs on the blue field to the players on the blue field that will verify my being on the blue field the entire event.

Actually, if you wanna ***** more, there was a 6 minute time frame in which i went to take a ****.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:43 PM #50
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jjdogz U ARE MY BOY BUT I CANT STAY HERE READING ALL THIS BULL **** GOING ON MAN I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING....

Yes its free speech,but when u start talking about bklyn kos home field and our sister team i have to say something man. Dude my guys played on the same field as u did and had the same refs as u.WHEN U START SAYING "ALL LVP TEAM WIN" not true dude because BKLYN K-OS didn't. I COULD HAVE BEEN A REAL ******* WHEN YOURSELF AND CHAD CALLED ME OVER ABOUT A GAME THAT WAS ENTERED WRONG ON THE BOARD. SO U CANT SIT HERE AND SAY LVP HOME TEAMS CHEAT

my guys beat philly in the Prelims we did not leave nothing for the refs to do. we also played them again in the qtr finals and they beat us fair.what I'm trying to say is philly stopped my guys from going into Semi-Finals twice. I understand how u feel getting so close and the door getting closed in your face. At the end of the day they just playing really good paintball just like u did and the other teams that placed top 4.

Dude u know me i want that top 3 so bad man just like u want that first place and the same goes for all epl team. We all want to place,we all want to hit podium that's y we play paintball. we don't play to put down other team,field or the refs.

just grind it out dude on the field. lets leave all this BULL **** AND LETS JUST PLAY PAINTBALL

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i didnt play 3 man that event only 5 man weKILLsucker$. also like u said budda it would be considered and obvious hit since it was on his shoulder/back and not his pack. also i miss phrased what i said and i didnt speak to the ref until the point was over and i went over politely to see what i believed was a hit. also budda i dont believe there was any favoritism towards philly because one of their nppl players talked to me after a point and warned me because another ref almost pulled a penalty on me.
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from what i remember, there was a player on your team that was also playing 3 man, he had either a camo or a beige colored shirt on, it may or may not have been you, but the player that we taunted was the person that told Jeff Trainer to "eat it" when said player ran him down, which was the only reason our player did that. we know it was the same player cause we watched him come off the field and watched him go right back on with ASK.
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i didnt play 3 man that event only 5 man weKILLsucker$. also like u said budda it would be considered and obvious hit since it was on his shoulder/back and not his pack. also i miss phrased what i said and i didnt speak to the ref until the point was over and i went over politely to see what i believed was a hit. also budda i dont believe there was any favoritism towards philly because one of their nppl players talked to me after a point and warned me because another ref almost pulled a penalty on me.
the hit on his back may have been from you shooting him as he ran past you... that is called a trade in the polite way. Another ref could call it spinning on a player. Someone could say another thing and so on and so on...

the part about a Philly Notorious NPPL player talking to you after a point and warning you about something is called sportsmanship and looking out for someone else on the field...
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hey man im saying nothing but good things about you guys. you dont have to be rude about it. just say thank you
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If you ask me this whole thread is just stupid and immature. ya win some and ya lose some, if ya lose you take what you saw that day, take it home and fix it! don't go and blame other people for your lack to compete, for example, JJ likes to think (and he told me this straight up) that he is "better then most,if not all of our players". if this is true then he is fine and it must be his "team that let him down", i mean seeing as he's so good and all. since it "was his team" he should take it to practice, and run drills to perfect whatever it is that needs to be done, bringing up a thread blaming otheres but your self is not how you win tournaments. hard work, practice, dedication, team work and SELF DISCIPLINE is how you win tournaments, that being said, i'm out and PBN staff should delete this thread and save us all the time of day from the shenanigans going on here. Hope to see you all at event #2, and hopefully the weather wont be as terrible as it was.
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Anthony, thank you!

Dustin, Alex, and Zach please stop posting.

Askrmoore,

I appreciate your feedback and mature way of going about this. Thanks and hopefully we'll see each other at the next event in a less hateful environment.

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hey man im saying nothing but good things about you guys. you dont have to be rude about it. just say thank you
yea zach take it easy, he's not one of them lol. he was just stating and wanting to know what happened. Sorry ASKrmoore, he's an angry little fat elf hahaha
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no dude, its not. Zach we're buds and all but theres no excuse for trash talking another person on the field. Trainer is a big boy and can handle his own battles, the ones he chooses to fight. Other than that its your job as a player to act above what others do to bring the sport down. As for the player playing 3man and going back to 5man you watched, stand up, be a ref or smart bystander and tell chad cuz thats definately against the rules. Stop arguing that anyside is right when it involves trash talking, its really like grow up guys. As for the notorious player trash talking, should have been a penalty but hell i remember playing the league and a team telling us they'd rather fight us than play in the finals in front of an EPL official and got laughed at, but we've got our first. Its up to us as players to make this sport better and I know i have been guilty of bringing it down myself, but if you let the refs decide the game you really werent good enough to win in the first place.
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It wasnt the reffs fault. I saw one of your dudes get shot out by one of our guys and flipped **** over that game. He played a good event up till then. It wasnt home field advantage. The reffs were just as hard on us as they were on anyone else. If you have a serious problem then talk to chad or someone before you go saying we were favored. We werent favored in any events last year when we took 2nd in jersey and 1st at wanna play.

Its paintball. Its a game. Its a sport. There is always bad calls and the more prepared team always wins. Just thank god that there werent any of our NPPL players on that line. We have an epl squad just for xball
im sorry but i have to laugh it up because you had a d2 player from avalanche so stop
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In regards to you being taunted, you told a person in 3 man to eat it. That person also happens to be Jeff trainer, a share holder and head of marketing for the NPPL, that was why, an only why, you were taunted.
ok it was me that told that person to eat it. i was a guess player onto all star kids so dont take nothing out on all star kids because that group og high school kid are a stand up team so take that up with me. as far who it was i honestly say i dont care who you are if it took you 7 shot to the face to stop shooting and didnt even land one ball on me then you deserve to eat it.i play both 5man and 3 man i also paid for both so i dont wanna hear no ones mouth ask chad if you have a problem thank you.

overall i want to say thank you to chad for a good event always a pleasure.

want to thank you to the ref's for standing out in the burtal cold and rain just for use have a great event (even though some ref calls were bull but hey your going to get that every event you go to)

thank you to the teams that came out

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For some reason when u try to shoot a Philly notorious player on there home field it's all most impossible I respect chad and the whole epl but I'm done spending my money trying to earn a first place at epl I can say this and I know people will agree with me all home teams shouldn't be able to play epl while the tournament is at lvp I was rob last year at quick shot the same thing this year I will say this no more lvp for me I'll skip epl when they come to lvp I'm pretty sure some of u teams have a lot to say about today's tournament
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Look at this they have the home field, home field factory team playing, home field refs, and home field coaching and ur telling me there nothing wrong with tht.

I am going to chime in here... these refs don't care if the people on the field on their own TEAM, they judge everyone fairly.

Just man up and take it on the chin. They played better than you and you guys lost.

Losers always blame the refs... little did you know, that more than 90% of the ref squad for EPL, ARE PSP CERTIFIED.

I am sure you will come right back to this post and rant and rave, I honestly don't care if you do, just know that your complaints will fall on deaf ears. Being a ref for 9 of the 10 years I have been playing, I have heard every excuse from every player and team.

bottom line, THE EPL DOES NOT EMPLOY BIASED REF'S.

edit - for the record, when you get bunkered and decide to keep shooting the person who bunkered you, even though you weren't facing them or didn't even have your gun up when they bunker you, is considered PLAYING ON and is CHEATING. and if it alters the game majorly, it becomes a MAJOR.
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im soory but i have to laugh at up because you had a d2 player from avalanche so stop
Seriously?
Please, stop yourself. First and foremost, ONE player does not win tournaments; perhaps they can pull off a few games but they WILL not win events. Secondly, if I recall correctly, Avalanche placed a whopping 23rd place, out of 23 teams; I'm not targeting the team but more-so your attack of the team using said player.
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jjdogz U ARE MY BOY BUT I CANT STAY HERE READING ALL THIS BULL **** GOING ON MAN I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING....

Yes its free speech,but when u start talking about bklyn kos home field and our sister team i have to say something man. Dude my guys played on the same field as u did and had the same refs as u.WHEN U START SAYING "ALL LVP TEAM WIN" not true dude because BKLYN K-OS didn't. I COULD HAVE BEEN A REAL ******* WHEN YOURSELF AND CHAD CALLED ME OVER ABOUT A GAME THAT WAS ENTERED WRONG ON THE BOARD. SO U CANT SIT HERE AND SAY LVP HOME TEAMS CHEAT

my guys beat philly in the Prelims we did not leave nothing for the refs to do. we also played them again in the qtr finals and they beat us fair.what I'm trying to say is philly stopped my guys from going into Semi-Finals twice. I understand how u feel getting so close and the door getting closed in your face. At the end of the day they just playing really good paintball just like u did and the other teams that placed top 4.

Dude u know me i want that top 3 so bad man just like u want that first place and the same goes for all epl team. We all want to place,we all want to hit podium that's y we play paintball. we don't play to put down other team,field or the refs.

just grind it out dude on the field. lets leave all this BULL **** AND LETS JUST PLAY PAINTBALL

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