[AlphaNeo36]

lol, thegreenpapers isn't sourced. They count every delegate and source everything. Like this: http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/VA-R#0306

Compared to

Virginia Primary 49 Delegates
Paul 17
Romney 16
16 Delegates TBD June 16


That one says Paul won more so it must be right! Delegates! It's funny how literally everything you say is incorrect. Typical paultards...

[AlphaNeo36]

Originally Posted by Blake360

The real delegate count is sourced

Hardly, I only see ten links under the sources header.

Originally Posted by Blake360

it shows how many delegates are awarded from each state convention

Which are made up statistics. It doesn't factor laws pertaining to delegate selection. They are essentially making up figures. Just look at Virginia as I listed, it's completely bogus.

Originally Posted by Blake360

your list only factors in the popular straw poll vote which isn't the same thing as delegates.

No, they factor state bylaws. Kind of like this:

Tuesday 6 March 2012: 46 of 49 of Virginia's delegates to the Republican National Convention are pledged to presidential contenders in today's Virginia Presidential Primary.

33 district delegates are to be bound to presidential contenders based on the primary results in each of the 11 congressional districts: each congressional district is assigned 3 National Convention delegates and the presidential contender receiving the greatest number of votes in that district will receive all 3 of that district's National Convention delegates.
13 at-large delegates (10 base at-large delegates plus 3 bonus delegates) are to be bound to presidential contenders based on the primary results statewide. Compute percentages to 3 decimal places, that is, 50.000%. The delegates are allocated to the presidential contenders as follows:
If a candidate receives 50.001% or more of the vote, that candidate is allocated all 13 at-large delegates.
If no candidate receives 50.001% or more of the vote, the 13 at-large delegates are allocated proportionally among those candidates receiving 15.000% or more of the vote. Rounding rules: Beginning with the candidate receiving the largest number of votes, round the fraction to the next whole number of delegates. Continue this process with the next highest vote getter and repeat until all the delegates are allocated

But I guess it's convient to say they don't factor that stuff and only look at straw polls.

[Blake360]

Originally Posted by AlphaNeo36

Which are made up statistics. It doesn't factor laws pertaining to delegate selection.

You mean these laws?

42 USC 1971 - Sec. 1971. Voting rights:
"No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President"

And since I know you're going to falsly say that doesn't apply to political parties,

11 CFR 100.2(e):
“(e) Caucus or Convention. A caucus or convention of a political party is an election if the caucus or convention has the authority to select a nominee for federal office on behalf of that party.”

Looks like nobody's bound after all. The more you know.

[licence2kill]

i enjoy watching alpha own you guys over and over

[AlphaNeo36]

lolololol

That's saying the PRIMARY is an "election" not the GOP National Convention. Holy crap, you are dense. Nobody is bound to vote in a primary.

[Blake360]

Originally Posted by AlphaNeo36

lolololol

That's saying the PRIMARY is an "election" not the GOP National Convention. Holy crap, you are dense. Nobody is bound to vote in a primary.

11 CFR 100.2(e):
“(e) Caucus or Convention. A caucus or convention of a political party is an election if the caucus or convention has the authority to select a nominee for federal office on behalf of that party.”

http://www.hookedonphonics.com/

[licence2kill]

and over and over

[Blake360]

Originally Posted by AlphaNeo36

lolololol

That's saying the PRIMARY is an "election" not the GOP National Convention. Holy crap, you are dense. Nobody is bound to vote in a primary.

To add insult to injury:

"FOOTNOTES: 1. A national nominating convention is considered a federal election. 11 CFR 100.2(e)."
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/delegate.shtml#1

It's okay, just try to hold back your tears. Your butt buddy here defending you is free to cry along with you. You probably made the most ironic post ever made. I keep reading it just to LOL. Well this is what happens when you try to act smart when you're really not. Maybe you'll have learned your lesson after this.

[AlphaNeo36]

Are you using definitions from separate titles? Yes, that is a trick question.

[Blake360]

Originally Posted by AlphaNeo36

Are you using definitions from separate titles? Yes, that is a trick question.

I'm using federal law, I wonder what kind of BS you're going to come up with that you think will counter it.
Might as well just admit you're a tard, it's not like we don't already know. I only proved it two posts ago.

[AlphaNeo36]

Lettuce look further at this proof.

Originally Posted by http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1971

b) Intimidation, threats, or coercion
No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives, Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate.

If we are to causually use definitions from laws that are in completely different sections of the US Code, 42 USC § 1971 (b) does not apply as a convention is neither of these

(b) General election. A general election is an election which meets either of the following conditions:

(1) An election held in even numbered years on the Tuesday following the first Monday in November is a general election.

(2) An election which is held to fill a vacancy in a Federal office (i.e., a special election) and which is intended to result in the final selection of a single individual to the office at stake is a general election. See 11 CFR 100.2(f).

(c) Primary election. A primary election is an election which meets one of the following conditions:

(1) An election which is held prior to a general election, as a direct result of which candidates are nominated, in accordance with applicable State law, for election to Federal office in a subsequent election is a primary election.

(2) An election which is held for the expression of a preference for the nomination of persons for election to the office of President of the United States is a primary election.

(3) An election which is held to elect delegates to a national nominating convention is a primary election.

(4) With respect to individuals seeking federal office as independent candidates, or without nomination by a major party (as defined in 26 U.S.C. 9002(6)), the primary election is considered to occur on one of the following dates, at the choice of the candidate:

(i) The day prescribed by applicable State law as the last day to qualify for a position on the general election ballot may be designated as the primary election for such candidate.

(ii) The date of the last major party primary election, caucus, or convention in that State may be designated as the primary election for such candidate.

(iii) In the case of non-major parties, the date of the nomination by that party may be designated as the primary election for such candidate.

(5) With respect to any major party candidate (as defined at 26 U.S.C. 9002(6)) who is unopposed for nomination within his or her own party, and who is certified to appear as that party's nominee in the general election for the office sought, the primary election is considered to have occurred on the date on which the primary election was held by the candidate's party in that State.

(f) Special election. Special election means an election which is held to fill a vacancy in a Federal office. A special election may be a primary, general, or runoff election, as defined at 11 CFR 100.2 (b), (c) and (d).

checkmate

[Blake360]

Originally Posted by AlphaNeo36

If we are to causually use definitions from laws that are in completely different sections of the US Code, 42 USC § 1971 (b) does not apply as a convention is neither of these

1. A national nominating convention is considered a federal election. 11 CFR 100.2(e).

Do you not see the word "convention" in that sentence? I guess I'll have to link you here again since you obviously still haven't ordered:
http://www.hookedonphonics.com/

An election doesn't have to fulfill all of those points in that list, only one. Again, you have some serious comprehension problems.

[AlphaNeo36]

You convientetly glanced over

at any general, special, or primary election

note, no mention of blanket terms

law is nuanced

I accept your defeat.

[Blake360]

Originally Posted by AlphaNeo36

You convientetly glanced over note, no mention of blanket terms

law is nuanced

I accept your defeat.

It's funny you think you're proving me wrong when you're just quoting text that does nothing to support your nonexistent argument. Show me where it says conventions are not federal elections. I already proved that they are, you haven't proved that they aren't, I don't see how you find this hard to understand. It's so obvious you're trying to spin this in your favor when you have no clue what you're talking about, copying and pasting random text that somehow is supposed to prove me wrong, when it actually supports what I already posted. I don't think you can fail more if you tried, but you might as well since I'm here for another hour or two and some entertainment is always nice.

[AlphaNeo36]

Where did this requirement and relevancy for claiming a federal election arise? That is irrelevant. What is relevant is that 42 USC § 1971 (b) doesn't apply per post #435. There is no part of the law stating a requirement for being classified as a "federal election" only a general, special, or primary election which your claim fails to uphold, therefore, you lose. Good day, sir.

[Blake360]

Originally Posted by AlphaNeo36

Where did this requirement and relevancy for claiming a federal election arise? That is irrelevant. What is relevant is that 42 USC § 1971 (b) doesn't apply per post #435. There is no part of the law stating a requirement for being classified as a "federal election" only a general, special, or primary election which your claim fails to uphold, therefore, you lose. Good day, sir.

I never said it was a general election, and nowhere does it say every point on this list has to apply to a convention. All that list does is describes all the different kinds of elections.
Lol you can't say I lose and expect to be right, when you're full of ****. I already proved you wrong and now you're dancing in circles trying to get your way out of it.

There is no part of the law stating a requirement for being classified as a "federal election" only a general, special, or primary election which your claim fails to uphold

It isn't my claim, it's what the federal law says. What's next, you're going to demand a source of the source for the law LOL you couldn't be any more of a joke.

[Blake360]

Originally Posted by AlphaNeo36

Where did this requirement and relevancy for claiming a federal election arise? That is irrelevant. What is relevant is that 42 USC § 1971 (b) doesn't apply per post #435. There is no part of the law stating a requirement for being classified as a "federal election" only a general, special, or primary election which your claim fails to uphold, therefore, you lose. Good day, sir.

The convention is considered a primary election by the definition as shown here:

(c) Primary election. A primary election is an election which meets one of the following conditions:
(1) An election which is held prior to a general election, as a direct result of which candidates are nominated, in accordance with applicable State law, for election to Federal office in a subsequent election is a primary election.

Notice how (1) describes what the convention is.
So no, I don't lose, you do. You can head off to bed now since it's done.

[drgonzo]

Wait what's going on here, people thinking that Ron Paul will be the nominee?

[Blake360]

Originally Posted by drgonzo

Wait what's going on here, people thinking that Ron Paul will be the nominee?

The delegates aren't bound to anyone at the convention.

[barrel roll]

Originally Posted by drgonzo

Wait what's going on here, people thinking that Ron Paul will be the nominee?

Acknowledging the possibility, while acknowledging the improbability, and sprinkling it with hope for a candidate that most aligns with their philosophies is what is going on here.

[$h@key J0nEZ]

I wonder how many lumps Obama takes with his tea?