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Old 04-25-2012, 04:12 PM #22
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Same question as above.... how did you even notice this.
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:54 PM #23
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It's a paintball that lost its fill...

I've gotten a few over the last 20 seasons
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:58 PM #24
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Well I am going to have to side on the other side of the fence with this one. I had a really bad time with Valken Graffiti.

We took some over to Badlandz for a tournament and it shot terribly. It bounced like crazy and we had a pod full of conjoined balls and massive dimples. This was from a total of 7 cases. Maybe it was terrible luck, but it blew haha!
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Old 04-26-2012, 08:50 AM #25
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Infinity hurts like hell! Flys straight but its like rubber balls! Great for just backyard practice but I think the stuff actually scared a few newbies from playing here since it bounced off them and never broke leaving some nice marks.

Graffiti is awesome! My paint of choice now. Breaks well, you may get a bounce here and there though, but no breaks in marker so ill take a few bounces over barrel breaks! I havent shot redemption because the graffitti is working so well. No dimples in any of the cases I have shot. Im sure its a bad case here and there, which goes for any paint.
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Old 04-27-2012, 07:57 PM #26
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Infinity sucks, plain and simple. It doesnt fly straight, it doesnt break on anything, and on top of that it doesnt feed well in a rotor (at least down here in louisiana).

Redemption is great. My favorite paint alongside evil.

Hopefully i'll be trying out some redemption pro this weekend. As good as redemption is, i cant imagine this stuff letting me down
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Old 04-27-2012, 08:26 PM #27
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Same results here as most everyone else. Infinity, even though it looked good and sized about .685, shot inconsistent, lots of curveballs/ flyaways. Really oily too. Graffiti is my favorite paint, about .682, and ball on ball. Never had a bad batch, but I'm sure they're out there. Get it for about $40.00 a case here, hard to beat at that price.
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:11 PM #28
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i have shot a case of redemption, it was okay, nice size ball, shell was a little harder than i expected (bounced people more than i would have liked), fill was thick and bright yellow. packing is real nice, no oil on balls, and comes with desiccant packs in sealed bags.

would i try valken again. more than likely if i could get some redemption pro to try out.
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:49 AM #29
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Shot more of the redemption this weekend and I really didn't like it. Accuracy was subpar for pump play and it was bouncing off of turf, while shooting 280 fps. Sitting on 1 1/2 cases of it and will take about another to shoot it in my pump.

Did shoot a pod of he new Dye paint. It was on par with ultra evil as far as accuracy and brittleness. Fill was. Darker yellow than ultra evil.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:21 AM #30
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Same question as above.... how did you even notice this.
Rotor jammed, once it finally fed a ball, the bolt wouldn't move forward. Removed the barrel and there it was...
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:50 PM #31
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TBH; my favorite paint is Valkan Grafiti has a nice design, every case i've goten has been different color stipes and i always buy the same case from the valkan website. I have never had a break in a bag so shipping is fenominal (sorry i know it isn't spelled right). And last but not least it breaks great from distances which is why i use it considering im a back player.
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Old 05-05-2012, 03:45 AM #32
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idk the valken infinity down in the 808 is not that bad. the crispiest (most likely not a word but to heck with it) fill that i have used was the white shell white fill infinity. after that would be the mellow yellow (yellow shell/yellow fill) and finally the craptastic orange.

while i do admit it does have its downsides:
1:lighter ball so wind plays a big factor
2:fill is weak on the orange and yellow but strangely not on the white
3:the occasional flyer

it does have its upsides:
1:cheap
2:fill is thicker than other compareable paint (Empire HEAT)
3:breakability is also better than mentioned other paint

that white fill infinity is definately the one fill you have to shoot over the orange and yellow
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:27 PM #33
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Well Shot Graffiti this weekend, Fresh and not so Fresh. Two Colors and had the same performance. Well to get it out there I am a Nelson paint lover and have been for years so it is what I can compare it to.

The shell was good and broke, but using it in a tournament it was not as brittle as I would like. The paint that I shoot when I can, Does not bounce and graffiti fell short. The fill was ok, not as thick and nasty as I would like.

I would grade it:
Shell: Roundness 8/10 - Fragility 6/10
Fill: Brightness 6/10 - Thickness 6/10

I would say this is a good mid grade practice paint for most, but I choose to shoot the best paint at every chance I get.

Side note: I am 99.9% I have been using this paint from the overseas manufacturer and I knew there was a great chance that they were the same as I am used to in the early 2000's and by the packaging and desiccant bags I would have to say that I am now sure that it is the same manufacturer. I sold 100's of cases from that company and knew what to expect.

I would like to use the Redemption Pro, Since I like to shoot top end paint I would like to compare that to what I am shooting now.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:56 PM #34
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Update for me...

the Ink'd is also REALLY good. I had it sitting in pods for about 6 months that I had forgotten about, shot it the other day and it was just as good as new!!!
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Old 05-08-2012, 12:06 AM #35
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Well Shot Graffiti this weekend, Fresh and not so Fresh. Two Colors and had the same performance. Well to get it out there I am a Nelson paint lover and have been for years so it is what I can compare it to.

The shell was good and broke, but using it in a tournament it was not as brittle as I would like. The paint that I shoot when I can, Does not bounce and graffiti fell short. The fill was ok, not as thick and nasty as I would like.

I would grade it:
Shell: Roundness 8/10 - Fragility 6/10
Fill: Brightness 6/10 - Thickness 6/10

I would say this is a good mid grade practice paint for most, but I choose to shoot the best paint at every chance I get.

Side note: I am 99.9% I have been using this paint from the overseas manufacturer and I knew there was a great chance that they were the same as I am used to in the early 2000's and by the packaging and desiccant bags I would have to say that I am now sure that it is the same manufacturer. I sold 100's of cases from that company and knew what to expect.

I would like to use the Redemption Pro, Since I like to shoot top end paint I would like to compare that to what I am shooting now.
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Old 05-08-2012, 12:39 AM #36
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:08 AM #37
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Let me change my comments from my previous experience with Redemption. I usually play pump and IMO it bounces too much when you only get one shot. I usually shoot ultra evil from my gun with best results.

With that said, I ran a couple of bags with a semi playing 5 man, and it had ball on ball accuracy, with a 30% bounce rate, but usually the follow on ball broke and didn't really affect my game. So semi yes, pump, not so much.
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:22 PM #38
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Used Graffiti at a tournament over the weekend...best paint I ever used.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:09 PM #39
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Hey, wondering if they make good paint.

Experience w/ the Infinity as well as the Redemption line would be great, and does anyone know the size of the paint?
redemption... green fill is .685 pink fill is .681 and redemption "pro" is .685 ..... shaft 4 barrels the balls will get stuck in these barrel sizes and you can blow them out

edit.. also all their paint even the pro isnt that brittle, the pro is definately better than the regular redemtion but still not that brittle

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Old 05-13-2012, 07:27 AM #40
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Tried Valkens Field & Graffiti yesterday with mixed results.

-Field was crap. Horrible fill, would not shoot straight 40% of the time & lots of bounces.

-Graffiti was better for sure. Fill was good, flew straight 80% of the time & few bounces.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:31 AM #41
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I buy a box of crusade and a box of graffiti and mix it together. Does amazing work.
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:26 PM #42
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I and the regulars at my field swear by ultra evil and valken redemption. I prefer the valken
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