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Old 03-27-2012, 05:03 PM #1
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Anyone else have problems switching from speedball to woods?

I play both styles, and Im pretty darn good at speedball if I do say so myself, but here lately, it seems like the better I get at speedball, the worse I get at woods. Is Anyone else having or has had the same problems? Any tips?
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Old 03-27-2012, 05:08 PM #2
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i havent played in the woods for a few weeks now. been focusing on speedball. i find in woodsball there are more angles and weird places for ppl to see you from. its not mirrored like speedball either. i can see how getting better and more accustomed to speedball could degrade your woodsball skils a little.
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Old 03-27-2012, 05:08 PM #3
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They're two different games and you play them differently. You're probably bringing stuff from speedball into the woods without knowing it. Try slowing down and taking it easy or something, do you feel yourself rushing?
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:58 PM #4
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^^^Yeah, I suppose I am. And I meant to say "I'm pretty darn good at speedball", but I guess I had a brainfart. I edited it though.
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Old 03-27-2012, 10:27 PM #5
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Well they are two different styles of play, speedball can be a more fast paced game while woodsball requires a little more patience. It's a lot easier to sneak up on people in woodsball and you can have the balls coming at more angles with less cover so you have to be more careful.
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Hehe, I tend to play them both the same, usually. Which usually scares the renters/walk-ons a little bit at the field when I'm charging up the middle of the woods with no regard for my own personal well-being and hoping to hit as many of 'em as I can before I get tagged.

But really, they require somewhat different skillsets. The basic skills are the same and transfer well enough from one to the other. But there are different angles to account for, different tactics that can be used in woodsball that would never work in speedball.

I like 'em both, though. Long as I get to play, I'm happy.
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:34 AM #7
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Slow it down, bro. When I do woodsball I jog to the boundary line and just walk from there. That's it. That's the big move.
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:16 PM #8
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I am going to play woodsball (hopefully) for the first time in over a year. I really concentrated on speedball, sponsorship, teams, etc, but at that point it felt more like a job to me. So I will see how I do, but I can imagine I will have to tone down my aggressiveness on the field slightly to adjust.
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:26 PM #9
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Never had a problem switching back and forth myself. Perhaps because woodsball was my start *shrugs* I dont know
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I actually had an easier time switching from woodsball to speedball! I've played woodsball my entire paintball career, and just recently decided to try some hyperball (mirrored field). I was destroying because I've always watched every angle in woodsball, but in speedball all I really had to watch was the lanes!

I still prefer woodsball, however, because I get more of an adrenaline rush sneaking far behind enemy lines with only my marker and my wits! (Not really, but you get the idea...)
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Never had a problem switching back and forth myself. Perhaps because woodsball was my start *shrugs* I dont know
I started in the woods, as well. But here recently, I've shifted my focus to speedball, and the more I improve, it seems like the worse I get in at woodsball. I mean, I suppose I'd rather be good at speedball if I had to choose. But whatever. Idk, I guess I'll just have to work on slowing it down next time I play, and see if that helps.
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:34 PM #12
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Depending on the actual layout, woodsball usually doesn't have solid bunkers like in speedball/supairball. You have to learn to use porous cover more and be more stealthy. Some have villages and stuff but hopefully you're not having problems in those areas.

You have to learn to slow down more and survey the area for possible hiding places. If theres a lot of trees with low thick foliage, lay on your belly. People can't see very well standing but you can under a tree, in the shade - you can see their feet/legs clearly and can see them coming from a mile away.

In the woods its harder to see the profile of a mask, gun, etc. but that's what you're looking for - irregular shapes. Basic stuff like stopping and listening carefully, watching for movement.

I'm sure someone somewhere has written a woodsball basics 101.
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I've never had a problem with either type of play, but when I started all that existed was woodsball. Speedball slowly got more and more like, well, speedball -- so it wasn't hard to adapt.

I think what you're doing is forgetting that the field is much bigger and you can't see everybody, but you're still rushing in too fast before you've assessed the situation. There are folks whose day is made if they shoot 1 or 2 people in an entire day from concealment. They don't play the way you play, and they are not necessarily talented at all, but if you overlook them THEY WILL shoot you out. It's part of woodsball.

I prefer a very fast paced woodsball game, but I realize there are those that will sit in the back, keep there distance, and basically annoy you until you can't stand the inaction....then they shoot you when you get too aggressive.

You just have to realize what you're working with and be aggressive when appropriate and conservative when it will keep you alive. If they make the mistake of not filling a position or providing adequate defense on a tapeline, that's when you go into full speedball mode and make them pay for it.

There's a lot more to it than that, but I hope that helps.
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Ifind that the more speedball i play...the more aggressive I am in the woods and I tend to be a little more aware in the woods...don't know but my teammates notice it too.
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Some things carry over. It is a switch. It's easy to get sloppy in winds. And out of shape!
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I definitely have to slow down my game in woodsball. In speedball I tend to be fast and more aggressive. In woodsball you can take your time and plan your actions more thoroughly imo..
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The key in woodsball is caution!
I once made the error of mistaking aggression and speed for strategy. That lasted about two games, after which I was covered in paint, usually in the first few minutes. You can be aggressive, and usually when people see someone in a full tactical vest and a crazy marker come charging at them, they usually get intimidated. That's why I wear a big vest and have tactical mods on my A5. It's functional, plus is scares the everloving crap out of most people!
So, be aggressive, but don't just throw caution to the wind. I've been laned by first-timers simply because I wasn't paying attention to the angles. Know what cover you'll be moving to, know where that cover is vulnerable, and estimate the amount of time you'll need to reach the cover. If it's less than about five seconds at a full sprint, you'll probably make it!
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I started in the woods, as well. But here recently, I've shifted my focus to speedball, and the more I improve, it seems like the worse I get in at woodsball. I mean, I suppose I'd rather be good at speedball if I had to choose. But whatever. Idk, I guess I'll just have to work on slowing it down next time I play, and see if that helps.
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I was destroying because I've always watched every angle in woodsball, but in speedball all I really had to watch was the lanes!
As I think about it I do the same. There is alot more I have to be aware of on large woodsball & themed fields. Plus the bunkers aren't always fully secure (holes, mess, brush, etc). In speedball I have much less to focus on. Everything is ahead of me and, depending how far I am up the field, all within one singular plane of vision
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I just try to put myself in a spot where I can take advantage of what I'm good at.

Some of making the switch depends on your knowledge of the fields too, if you're really familiar with the field you're playing on, I don't see the switch being a big deal. In unfamiliar surroundings though, I could see it being a big problem.

I think in woodsball there's just a bit more space to keep track of. The pace of play is obviously different, or at least it can be different. It's like anything else in paintball, just keep your head screwed on straight, and do what you know how to do the best you can. The rest will usually come.
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