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Old 03-26-2012, 11:26 PM #1
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D4 Schedule Frustrations

Disclaimer- The NPPL has contacted me with some info regarding this:

1. D4 7man finals are on Sunday, top 8 teams will advance.
2 I scheduled my return flight for early Sunday because NPPL said D4 would run Thurs-Sun, and they have offered to reimburse me for needing to change it.
3. They tried to put D4 finals on center court, but couldn't.

I like the NPPL a lot, but am slightly agitated still. Probably because I have lots of homework to do before I fly out. Let me know if you have questions.

Here is copy of email I sent NPPL:

"As a D4 player, I am very upset with the proceedings leading up to the current proposed schedule that was recently released. After years of playing prelims over the course of 2 days and emails stating that D4 prelims would be Thursday and Friday, they are now only Thursday. Furthermore, announcements from the NPPL appeared to attract D4 teams with the promise of playing on "Center Court", which I am assuming is NOT Field 2, which is where the schedule shows the D4 finals occurring. As if this were not enough, it shows that only 4 teams will be advancing, and the rules clearly state that in a division with over 11 teams the top 8 will advance to a quarterfinal round.

I understand the announcement that this is a preliminary schedule and I do sincerely hope that it will be fixed when the FINAL schedule is released. I love the NPPL and that is why I am so excited to play this event, but I want what I was promised. If not, I will be forced to seek legal help to reimburse my lost costs due to false claims on the behalf of the NPPL. The NPPL offers a service to me, perhaps even a product, and I want what I paid for.

Please contact me with any questions.

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If this is not the correct email to voice this opinion, please forward it.


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Yeah, I left the sent from my iPad part because I want to be arrogant. Anyways, I am upset and would encourage anyone else to voice their opinions as well.

Moderators- I'm not trying to wage war, I don't think I've said anything terrible here.

My frustrations in order of importance:

1. Schedule shows top 4 teams advancing when rules state top 8 should.
2. Prelims only Thursday when emails and history indicate Thursday and Friday would be used.
3. Not playing finals on center court as promised.

Edit*** I don't like making reading mistakes, especially when I got a 36 (aka perfect) score on the reading section of the ACT and love to brag about it, but I did. I don't know if this makes things better or worse, but they could go either way depending on what the NPPL does. the D4 finals schedule posted is for Race To, and I interpreted it as 7man. This, however, means there is NO finals schedule currently posted for D4 7man. My suggestion that I emailed the NPPL was they could take top 8 and do quarterfinals on Friday, then squeeze the final 4 on Center Court on Saturday for finals. Problem solved!
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:34 PM #2
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Agree on every level bro hopefully it'll be changed
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:36 PM #3
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Agreed with as well....

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Old 03-26-2012, 11:40 PM #4
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Haha. Also for anyone who thinks I'm going overboard I apologize but am passionate about this sport and want it to progress. Customers make the NPPL so great and I fear that problems will cause the sport to shrink, especially if they are happening in the lowest division. These are the players that need to be taken care of. I want the NPPL to increase their level of communication and explain why changes are being made if they are. Last minute changes on an event of this magnitude should not be happening. Not after 10 years. Not without clear explanations.
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:47 PM #5
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Are you playing 7 man or 5 man race to? The tentative schedule brackets is top 4 5 man teams out 8 total teams. I don't see where the playoffs for 7 man D4 will be playing.

Overall, I agree there was some misadvertisement of this tournament.
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:51 PM #6
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I'm so angry right now...

You forgot the part about the fee increase.
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:52 PM #7
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Even better. Doesn't have finals. I did misread the top 4 on race to because I am playing D4 7man.

So they need to find time on Field 1 for the D4 7man finals to be played on Saturday.
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:11 AM #8
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Please refer to my edit above.
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:15 AM #9
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Most likely Sunday. Unless they plan on not giving the refs a lunch. But at that point why even have games on Thursday?
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D4 7man finals are on Sunday, most likely on Field two or three.

As always (within the rules), 8 D4 7man teams move on to quarter finals.

We try and have all divisions play FINALS on Center Court, but unfortunatley this time we were unable to do so.

D4 Multi point finals occur on Saturday as shown on the published schedules.

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Old 03-27-2012, 12:25 AM #11
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"Pump and all D4 divisions will be playing Thursday, Friday, and with Finals on Center Court Saturday, while Pro, D1, D2, & D3 divisions will be playing Friday- Sunday."

Who's paying to change my return flight?
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Yes, it will be a problem. They advertised D4 finals would be on Sat. So play thursday, wait 2 days until finals. I guess we will see how we like the 2 day break in my mind it is 50/50 still.
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D4 7man finals are on Sunday, most likely on Field two or three.

As always (within the rules), 8 D4 7man teams move on to quarter finals.

We try and have all divisions play FINALS on Center Court, but unfortunatley this time we were unable to do so.

D4 Multi point finals occur on Saturday as shown on the published schedules.

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Well that solved my problem. I can't stand grammatical errors.

Seriously though, the schedule has D4 Finals, ALL D4 divisions, on Saturday. So since I have a life, a wife, school, and work, I scheduled my return flight for Sunday. Now you tell me that's when finals are?
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D4 7man finals are on Sunday, most likely on Field two or three.

As always (within the rules), 8 D4 7man teams move on to quarter finals.

We try and have all divisions play FINALS on Center Court, but unfortunatley this time we were unable to do so.

D4 Multi point finals occur on Saturday as shown on the published schedules.

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So what happens on Friday and Saturday for D4?
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Wow, I feel your pain man.....not a great way to start off the opener by changing things days before the event.... Best of luck getting this resolved!
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So what happens on Friday and Saturday for D4?
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wow this has got to be a first most complaints about an event are afterwards,.....

playing prelims on one day is so much better than two days imop, having played it both ways. from a team perspective saves on hotel, travel days off work, food ect. saves money

The problem here is two fold,
fold one
one schedules can't be made until all teams are registered, two when the cut off for registration is so late week or two before the event makes getting information out timely difficult/impossible. (timely for hotel, airfare reservations ect).
cut offs are late because leagues need teams to enter, and I will bet teams were let in after the cut off, why cause the league wants the money.

fold two
communication, from the league to players needs improvement, i am sure nppl is doing everything they can but, know that they cant put rumors or potentials out there because someone would misunderstand not read the fine print and jump to conclusions.

in my experience when it comes to national events and travel best to plan on being there one day a head of the start(thursday if play begins on friday, in this case wednesday) and leaving the monday following, any tighter and the what ifs become a factor.

Cory the final piece is this, your original post and several subsiqent posts since come off with this "air of entitlement". That therefore I am so I deserve attitude.

That doesn't help you or your cause, that type of attitude serves no one, not even yourself.

Next time you have a complaint first stop and think about the BIG PICTURE... that means outside your life and what IMPACT what your about to say has on it. Then start a convsersation with the right people.

Make a commitment to a league, complete a season playing one league, support their vendors, promote paintball and events at your local field, teach paintball to some kids, share and grow the sport.
no need to promote negativity.

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p.s. sorry for the gramatical errors, I have my masters degree but PBN doesn't have spell check.
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I'm fine playing prelims on one day, I just wish they would have told me that was going to happen so it would be possible to save on those things you mentioned. Actually, that is part of my frustration that you appear to have missed.

The letter I posted, dated February 1, said finals would be Saturday. So I got my flight booked for Sunday. Now they are telling me finals are Sunday? Theoretically, I could have planned on flying out late Saturday night, and this would cost me: 1 more day of hotel, 1 more day of rental car, 1 more day of food, 1 more missed day of whatever I want to do that day, etc. Does that make sense?

So as to your fold one- I understand it is hard to make schedules so late after trying to maximize the amount of teams, but you can't tell me when I already have everything booked that I will need to stay another day. Tell me I'm playing at such and such hour, but they can at least schedule the days, make a dummy schedule based on estimated teams (I believe they have maxed out at 120 the past few years, so this shouldn't be too hard).

Fold two- The communication is terrible and unacceptable from an organization like this.

I'm arriving tomorrow, the day before play starts. I was planning on leaving Sunday, the day after they announced play would be over. Shouldn't have had any problems.

I do feel entitled to what I pay for, and if it isn't what I was promised I will be upset until things are made right.

I've completed seasons playing leagues, I've played many NPPL events, I support vendors, local fields and their events, and new paintball players.

I'm upset because I was promised something, paid for it, and am not receiving that. Why don't you put yourself in my shoes?
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Its the standard Frank and Chuck show and if your division did not start with PRO then they really don't care, you only received a response because your playing 7-man.

When you plan to see the circus, you should not expect the monkey's to do anything but throw S**T at you because that is what they do.

Forget playing the event and ask Chuck for a good local surfing instructor, you will have his full attention and then you can ask him to fix your problem.
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