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Old 03-17-2012, 09:27 PM #1
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Are you <del>****</del>ing kidding me?

Went to my oring supplier and bought a complete fresh set of orings for the viking, including the metric ones inside the noid.

Switched out everything, and magically viking is back to working 100%, have no clue what the problem was.

Get air today and start to tune viking, setting at dwell 9, lpr 68, 2 liter somewhere around the 200 range. Shoots 285 +/-2 for about four pods.

Put in one last pod before I pack it up for x-ball tomorrow and hear a strange noise about 3 shots into the pod, bolt is stuck forward but gun still shoots when I pull the trigger.

Ended up with this:


Are you <del><del><del><del>****</del></del></del></del>ing kidding me right now?

This has been the project from hell getting this thing running again, I have never had anywhere near this many problems with a gun before.

I have never even heard of a viking ram shaft breaking before.

I am completely <del><del><del><del>****</del></del></del></del>ing done at this point, I'll get it back to running but its going up for sale. Whole thing has turned into a complete nightmare.
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Old 03-17-2012, 09:34 PM #2
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Is this a RTvalve? I've read about it happening to some RT... And it did happened to the stock ram of my Excal. Don't drop it already, you just got it back to good state, pretty much.

edit: Thread when it happened to my excal.. See Dan's comment at the bottom...
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2483076

Another thread with broken RT ram shaft..
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...robtown+broken
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Old 03-17-2012, 09:48 PM #3
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yea it does happen to some rt's...funny we don't know why...i have the very first one we installed in the shop, i have put soooo many shots through it and it is still perfect, while others have had problems...i wouldnt sell the gun...fix it, leave it for a little bit and come back to it..
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:56 PM #4
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I think you should sell it

to me

for 100 dollars
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Old 03-18-2012, 12:09 AM #5
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Old 03-18-2012, 12:32 AM #6
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Jb weld.
LOL. That was good for my car, but won't do it here. I'd still be curious to see how many shots it'd stand.
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Old 03-18-2012, 12:35 AM #7
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Old 03-18-2012, 07:27 AM #8
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Let me clarify on what i said...when i said we dont know why..it's not for lack of knowledge...there have been so few that have broken, compared to what have been sold...that's why i say that. There can be many reasons why it broke..it's just a rare thing
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:31 PM #9
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Damn, hope you get her up and running quickly. Please don't sell it as it would be a helluva waste.
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:50 PM #10
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Happened to my rt valve but at the face of the popit, fix it up and get this thing shooting!
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:53 PM #11
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Dude, calm down. Drink a beer. Then just order another one. Seriously, I think you'd kick yourself for selling it. You don't need the cumulative seller's remorse of what.. 90+ guns coming down on you for the sale of this one.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:02 PM #12
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Could it be the front of the ram was tightened too much from the factory so it was sticking the back of the ram? And others that are right have a tiny gap between?

I can make you another one perhaps?
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:15 PM #13
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Jared already took care of him...some things it could have been...bolt pin being forced in, throwing the ram off square so it wore one side...bad top cap of the ram, so it rode funny...and a few other things...but i think it has been narrowed it down
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:31 PM #14
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They do have a tiny gap. They were made slightly longer to reduce the contact to prevent this issue.
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I do study failure analysis for work and judging just from the picture the break pattern does represent fatigue failure meaning something was wrong for a while, most likely it being to tight or slightly bent
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Old 03-22-2012, 10:32 AM #16
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Jared said something had been off for quite a while as the type 3 anno on the shaft and front of ram cartridge was wore off.

Unfortunately I am the one the has to deal with it and pay for it and I haven't even been able to get a case of paint through it yet

New RT parts, new cartridge front and a stock bolt pin are going to be on there way so hopefully I can finally get this beast running.
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:31 PM #17
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Just send the marker to Jared, have him repair, tech, tune, and you wont have to do anything for years man.
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Old 03-24-2012, 10:06 PM #18
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Got cartridge back today with new shaft, hammer and front cartridge cap, along with a stock bolt pin, shooting 295 +/-1
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Got cartridge back today with new shaft, hammer and front cartridge cap, along with a stock bolt pin, shooting 295 +/-1
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excellent! Previous ram just couldn't handle all that awesome at once.
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