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Old 06-06-2012, 06:46 AM #232
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Deathmoney.......here you go:

November "Max Perkins" Bike w/ Rival/Force Build for $2,500....and you can add carbon wheels for $500 more.

http://www.novemberbicycles.com/wheelhouse-bike/
damn, and i can pick it up in bethesda right down the road from me...thanks!

EDIT: I need to get proffessionally fitted before I buy one though...

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Old 06-06-2012, 08:16 AM #233
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Getting fitted takes 30 minutes of your life. Trust me, November makes awesome bikes. They probably will fit you.

When I buy another bike, I will probably end up buying a November.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:05 AM #234
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Don't get hung up on component levels and weights and stupid **** like that, just find a good frame with decent parts and make sure it fits you. There is nothing wrong with rival and 105, they work just as well as the top end crap. Literally any bike you buy now in your price range is going to be light enough for whatever.
To me the biggest point is how the frame is made. The newer carbon machines have oversized headtubes, stiff bottom brackets and shaped tubes that tune the ride perfectly and make them handle well. If i'm putting my money somewhere it will be the frame. And if you buy carbon make sure it has a warranty of at least 3 years.
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Old 06-06-2012, 12:20 PM #235
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My debate is what is going to hold up better in DC. The roads here aren't exactly great, even the trails here have some issues with their surface. So my question is, will carbon fiber hold up? and if I spent the extra 500$ for carbon fiber wheels would they hold up. I'm not saying I will be going through pot holes but there are many bumps areound DC. So I guess I want a bike that will be competitive, light, fast, have good components that will not hinder my performance(yes 105 will work but I've used some SRAM red/black edition and there was a huge difference), a bike that will be great for long rides/100 mile +, and not break my bank. The CAAD 10 does look outstanding, but for 500$ more the november bike looks outstanding too, although its warranty is 2years on the frame.

sorry for the thread clutter, but I don't really trust bike shops in DC, they always seem full of sketchy individuals trying to sell **** I don't probably need. thanks for all the help and suggestions so far though.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:02 PM #236
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Your thinking is backwards. Carbon fibre is the better choice for rough roads. If a frame is properly made it will hold up indefinitely to rough riding. They only crack if they are not made right (warranty) or if you crash them really hard, in which case any frame would break just as easily.
Honestly there isn't even a debate about frame material anymore. Some of the newer frames like the caad10 and allez are pretty nice for the money, but IMO they still don't come close to a good carbon frame.
and for what it's worth I race pretty seriously and I use rival on my throw-down rig. It seriously works just as well... the trick is to use the high end cable sets and maintain your bike properly.

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Old 06-06-2012, 09:04 PM #237
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I am looking for like a road bike for something I can ride about 10 miles back and forth to work and the gym a day, nothing fancy just something a lot easier than a mountain bike from walmart. Any ideas?
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:39 PM #239
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I am looking for like a road bike for something I can ride about 10 miles back and forth to work and the gym a day, nothing fancy just something a lot easier than a mountain bike from walmart. Any ideas?
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not going to pick up any trim with that rig
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/fr...ike-10732.html
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:47 AM #242
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new BMC bike?

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I ended up buying a Trek Madone, thanks for the help you guys are real experts
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So is their any benefits to a crankset based powermeter compared to a wheel based powermeter, except for being a little more accurate and the added benefit of changing wheelsets....anything else?
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Old 06-09-2012, 03:13 PM #246
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Damn... You went above and beyond a commuter.
I got a great deal I couldn't turn down and I like the look of the bike.
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So is their any benefits to a crankset based powermeter compared to a wheel based powermeter, except for being a little more accurate and the added benefit of changing wheelsets....anything else?
The biggest downside to me having a hub system is that my training wheel is never the same wheel/tire I want to race on. I really like the idea of a pedal system since I race track.
What I would really like to see is a cheaper crank that accepts a power spider easily, so I could run the same arms on all the bikes and just swap the spider. Especially since the industry is looking like it might go 110 BCD across the board.

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So berserker, are you more of a fan of the new Red or Di2 (10s)? I rode the new Red recently, but still holding out on trying the Di2 for actual riding and not playing about.
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So berserker, are you more of a fan of the new Red or Di2 (10s)? I rode the new Red recently, but still holding out on trying the Di2 for actual riding and not playing about.
I've switched my front derailuer to the new
Red FD you don't need the shifters an crank set to make it work correctly , I've been trying out my Friends Bmc gfo1 with di2,I prefer the tactical feel of the new SRAM red over di2. The front shifting is so much better the previous red derailuer especially shifting under load
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I prefer the Di2 which is why I bought it. You don't even notice the shifts and that is what I like about it, it just does it's job. Also a big fan of the clean setup and zero maintenance. The new sram is nice though, great value for the money and the front shifting really is superb.
You have to remember though I've been riding shimano since 7700 groups, so I'm just more comfortable with their stuff. I also have bikes with DA7800 and sram rival and I like them both too but it is night and day with electronic.

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How's the battery life on di2?
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It isn't an issue. Just charge it once every few weeks but probably don't even need to.
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