Find fields & stores near you!
Find fields and stores
Zipcode
PbNation News
PbNation News
Community Focus
Community Focus

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-07-2012, 02:35 PM #1
LOKIm
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: FL
LOKIm has achieved Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has achieved Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
What happenned to my thread?

Hi,

This is (scatlm)... I'm not sure why my BST thread (The MATRIX Bastion) was deleted. Can someone shed some light into this?

Thanks
LOKIm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sponsored Links Remove Advertisement
Advertisement
Old 03-07-2012, 02:48 PM #2
jmorisaki
B/S/T MOD
 
jmorisaki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Missourah
Annual Supporting Member
jmorisaki is a Mega Moderator
jmorisaki is BST Legit
jmorisaki supports Team VICIOUS
My apologies. I got side tracked at work and didn't complete. You are still posting new items in the used forum. Why?

You've received infractions and when temp bans for this very reason.

The thread was reported and ultimately moved to the holding pen.
jmorisaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 03:13 PM #3
LOKIm
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: FL
LOKIm has achieved Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has achieved Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
DUde everything in there is used. What item is new? I think I may have posted some cheap grips and that got posted when i copied and pasted my BST from MCB.. not sur if its there or not... but that would be the only item... a 14$ pair of grips.
LOKIm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 03:23 PM #4
LOKIm
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: FL
LOKIm has achieved Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has achieved Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
Omg
LOKIm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 03:39 PM #5
jmorisaki
B/S/T MOD
 
jmorisaki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Missourah
Annual Supporting Member
jmorisaki is a Mega Moderator
jmorisaki is BST Legit
jmorisaki supports Team VICIOUS
Here's your thread. Looks like a lot of items marked new. I was nice and didn't infract you. Too many active points and you will lose that account.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scatlm View Post
matrix dye dm3 gen-e gene nyx toxic freeflow trauma aardvark tequila sunrise
ALL PRICES INCLUDE PRIORITY SHIPPING
WARNING: PICTURE HEAVY

***Red Aardy bolt-kit, Tadao 5.0, and Hybrid 50/50 frame coming soon.

Tadao 5.0 - SOLD
LCD Rev 6.0 - $28 shipped
AKALMP Sidewinder - $60 shipped **NEVER SAW A GAME -- SHOWCASE USE ONLY**
AKALMP SCM II - $40 shipped **NEVER SAW A GAME -- SHOWCASE USE ONLY**
Evolve 1.1 X-91 - $115 Shipped **NEVER SAW A GAME -- SHOWCASE USE ONLY**(Complete Gold-kit)
Evolve 1.3 X-93 - $85 Shipped **NEVER SAW A GAME -- SHOWCASE USE ONLY** (Comes with its original packaging, manual, and all of the parts you need including a 3x oring rebuild kit)
Aardvark Tentacle vollies (blue) - SOLD
Toxic DUB Wheel + Toxic Spikes combo - $30 shipped
Toxic breech (New style) w/ detents - SOLD
DM3 Body w/ complete Eye carrier & matching front/rear plugs (pewter) - $38 shipped **MINT
OTB trigger-frame - SOLD
Evolve VERT frame - $55 shipped -- condition 7/10 *RARE*
Evolve VERT frame upgraded w/ Gator raker trigger, complete with all screws and push-buttons - $85 shipped -- condition 9.5/10 *RARE* *SEAMLESS STRINGS OF PAINT*
CP Snatch-grip - $15 shipped
CCM No-Rise PRO series Feedneck - $20 shipped
DYE Ultralite back - $35 shipped **MINT **It was only used once very lightly, less than a case through it -- it is absolutely pristine -- no scratches or thread wear whatsoever.
DYE Boomy back - SOLD
WGP on n off - $20 shipped

Will offer bundle deals if you take 3 or more parts.








NEW AKA SCM-II - $50 shipped & PBC LPRS - $25 shipped

dye dm3 gen-e gene nyx toxic freeflow trauma aardvark tequila sunrise evolve bolt
NEW NDZ Parts-kit: NEW NDZ 15 VAA, NEW NDZ Omega NO-rise feedneck, and two DYE Matrix front plugs -- $20 shipped

NEW HYBRID DM3/DM4 - $18 shipped

$35 shipped for the UL back -- both are .688.



ALL PRICES ARE SHIPPED
Will offer bundle deals if you take 3 or more parts.

dye dm3 gen-e gene nyx toxic freeflow trauma aardvark tequila sunrise evolve bolt
jmorisaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 03:49 PM #6
LOKIm
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: FL
LOKIm has achieved Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has achieved Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
oh ****. Ok the scm slipped through alogn wiht a pair of grips when I copied and pasted it from another site... sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for being lenient... If i ge infracte done more time I DO lose this account

But believe me I ve been careful these two items just happened to slip by... everything else has been used though.... even if they never saw a game theve been used plenty in the house so they are in no sense of the word "new" or "tested" unless you count 5k dry fires and 1k actual shots "tested"? Its not in anys ense of the word only "tested" and it would be dishonest to lsit it as such.

So its that AKA lpr and the grips that slipped through... I cant even go in there and delete them since my account is on a little vacation.

Last edited by LOKIm : 03-07-2012 at 03:51 PM.
LOKIm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 03:55 PM #7
jmorisaki
B/S/T MOD
 
jmorisaki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Missourah
Annual Supporting Member
jmorisaki is a Mega Moderator
jmorisaki is BST Legit
jmorisaki supports Team VICIOUS
Yes one more active infraction and the account is gone.
jmorisaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 03:58 PM #8
LOKIm
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: FL
LOKIm has achieved Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has achieved Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
Ok, the feedneck slipped through as well now that I look. Ok sorry for takign time away fromy ou once again to deal with new items int he wrong thread, and I want to say thank you for not infracting me... Ive worked hard to deliver an excellent service on every transaction and it would kill me if I lost this account.

I'll have to be more careful when copying and pasting BST threads from other sites. Its jsut that soemitmes its mch easier if I sell an item.. isntea dof manually unlisting it and marking it "sld" on every link... Ill jsut copy and paste the whole thread... and as you can see I forgot to delete certain items when I pasted it here.

Anyway... I wont cvopy and paste any bst's from other sites int he future in order to prevent this.. Im sure this is a one-time leniency and im walking on a thin line...
LOKIm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 04:04 PM #9
LOKIm
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: FL
LOKIm has achieved Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has achieved Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
As for the "never saw a game" items... thats what they are... items that have never been to a field, so their aesthetic conditions is excelelnt however they have been used plenty.


You know a bolt or a reg can be fired 1000's of times and not have any real aesthetic tear & wear, however the item is not new in any sense of the word... nor is it only tested. I mean how can one consider a tested item an item that ahs been dried fire 5k+ X?

Last edited by LOKIm : 03-07-2012 at 04:08 PM.
LOKIm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 04:55 PM #10
LOKIm
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: FL
LOKIm has achieved Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has achieved Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
?
LOKIm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 07:08 PM #11
jmorisaki
B/S/T MOD
 
jmorisaki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Missourah
Annual Supporting Member
jmorisaki is a Mega Moderator
jmorisaki is BST Legit
jmorisaki supports Team VICIOUS
Please do not bump your threads unless it's been 72 hours.

If you state never been used in a game. Showcase item. What should I expect? More importantly what should your buyer expect? If I was buying I'd expect a brand new item. Not one that's been used, scratched up, etc

As long as you're detailed in your descriptions you won't have a problem. If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, it's probably a duck.

Thanks for having an adult conversation and glad you'll be more careful.
jmorisaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 07:34 PM #12
LOKIm
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: FL
LOKIm has achieved Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has achieved Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmorisaki View Post
Please do not bump your threads unless it's been 72 hours.

If you state never been used in a game. Showcase item. What should I expect? More importantly what should your buyer expect? If I was buying I'd expect a brand new item. Not one that's been used, scratched up, etc

As long as you're detailed in your descriptions you won't have a problem. If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, it's probably a duck.

Thanks for having an adult conversation and glad you'll be more careful.
Ok, regarding those items, its still not quite clear what I should do. You know jsut becasue an item has been used, it doesn't mean that it's "scratched up, etc"...the internals have worked but the items have never been used in a game. I mean... it is what it is. Its not new or tested... they are "mint" condition items.

The bolts have been cycled houndreds if not thousands of times.... but they dont have scratches or aesthetic wear.... afterall its a spoolie that fired the bolts. I have plenty of spoolies that are showcase markers and do not leave the house, however, they see plenty of shooting ... i mean thousands of both, dry fires and paintballs -- no actual field-play, however.

I jsut need to ask, if its ok, if I:

1. Obviously take-down the grips and the SCM which is NEW along with the feedneck. All of these were my mistake and got carried over from a copy-n-paste I carelessly did; one which willn ot happen again.

2. On the "never saw a game" items just take out that note. Just list them as "used" and not write anything about "never seeing a game or being parts of showcase markers".

Just trying to run it by you so that I understand 100% what constitutes a "tested" or "new" item, becasue I stand with what i said, these items are used... they are mint, however. Just becasue an item is used doesn't mean it has to be "Scratched up, etc" nor is that what a buyer should expect.

Thanks for finding the time to address my concern and field my question.
I know you have enough to do as-it-is.

Best Regards,

Eli
LOKIm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2012, 07:09 AM #13
jmorisaki
B/S/T MOD
 
jmorisaki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Missourah
Annual Supporting Member
jmorisaki is a Mega Moderator
jmorisaki is BST Legit
jmorisaki supports Team VICIOUS
http://www.pbnation.com/faq.php?faq=bst#faq_bstrule8

All of your answers are in the rules. See link I attached.
jmorisaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2012, 07:21 AM #14
LOKIm
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: FL
LOKIm has achieved Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has achieved Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
Ok, i see.
Quote:
Example: A barrel that has never been to the field but has been dropped and dented or visibly scratched can go in either the New or Unused Equipment / Services forum or the barrel forum. However, the damage needs to be properly described. This applies to all equipment, not just markers.

Ok, so now I understand. Regardless of its condition... weather it has dents or scratches, its considered new if it has not been to a field ?

Man this is as contradictory as a rule can possibly get. It lacks any sort of common-sense... and it is a diservice to the buyer.

Last edited by LOKIm : 03-08-2012 at 02:12 PM.
LOKIm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2012, 02:13 PM #15
LOKIm
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: FL
LOKIm has achieved Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has achieved Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
?
LOKIm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2012, 03:43 PM #16
jmorisaki
B/S/T MOD
 
jmorisaki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Missourah
Annual Supporting Member
jmorisaki is a Mega Moderator
jmorisaki is BST Legit
jmorisaki supports Team VICIOUS
Any retailer will sell scratch and dent appliances, electronics etc. They don't call them used. They are still new. If I dent a refrigerator and it was never plugged in......then it is new.

However, we've given you the flexibility to display it in either forum. We are not telling you it MUST go in either one. But if you do post it in either forum you need to detail that out in your description.

No contradiction at all.
jmorisaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2012, 03:47 PM #17
jmorisaki
B/S/T MOD
 
jmorisaki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Missourah
Annual Supporting Member
jmorisaki is a Mega Moderator
jmorisaki is BST Legit
jmorisaki supports Team VICIOUS
And again, please do not bump your threads. Mods are volunteers. I can only respond to question when I get a few seconds to breathe at work or in the evening or early morning time.
jmorisaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2012, 03:52 PM #18
LOKIm
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: FL
LOKIm has achieved Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has achieved Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmorisaki View Post
Any retailer will sell scratch and dent appliances, electronics etc. They don't call them used. They are still new. If I dent a refrigerator and it was never plugged in......then it is new.


No contradiction at all.
Ok, excpet that your analogy does little to justify the fact that the paintball equipment was used. Meaning that the paintball equipment "was plugged in" in essence... I understand what you're saying, and it would be a good analogy if in-fact the marker or marker parts were never "aired-up"... because even the board was "plugged-in" to a battery... electrons traveled though its circuit and consequently, the pneumatics fired thousands of paintballs. Just not at the field....

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmorisaki View Post
However, we've given you the flexibility to display it in either forum. We are not telling you it MUST go in either one. But if you do post it in either forum you need to detail that out in your description.

And how are you igiving me the flexibility if you're taking down my parts thread... how are you not telling me that I "MUST" lis tit in NEW/Unused if I'm being infracted?

Its like I'm in the twilight zone.
LOKIm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2012, 04:19 PM #19
jmorisaki
B/S/T MOD
 
jmorisaki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Missourah
Annual Supporting Member
jmorisaki is a Mega Moderator
jmorisaki is BST Legit
jmorisaki supports Team VICIOUS
I think we're beating the horse. You have your answer.

If it's new and unused it goes in the new.
If it's new and damaged can go either.
If it's used it goes used.

You were infracted when you posted a new item in the used. New shoes. New barrel.

Your were NOT infracted when you posted new grips, new feednecks but merely moved to the holding pen.

Once you are unbanned then you can create a new thread under your old new. Or you can create a new thread under your new name. Just do not post new items in the used forum.
jmorisaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2012, 04:27 PM #20
LOKIm
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: FL
LOKIm has achieved Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has achieved Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
LOKIm has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
Thank you for taking the time to address my concern.


This answers my question:
"If it's new and damaged can go either. "

Thank you

Edit: P.S. Whoops I didnt realize I was bumping this thread needlessly. Sorry about that. I understand you guys try to address as many people as possible and your job becomes harder with the same thread popping back up. Didnt realize you were asking me not to bump this thread. My apologies.

Last edited by LOKIm : 03-08-2012 at 05:45 PM.
LOKIm is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
Forum Jump