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Old 02-24-2012, 07:23 PM #1
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Empire Sniper, Trilogy on 'Roids?

Has anyone noticed or take the time out there day to think about how the new empire sniper looks?

They did a really good job a taking all the trilogy bodies and making a very nice pump gun out them.

Good job Simon!
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:16 PM #2
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I'm not dissing Simon or KEE in any way. I just hate for people to say that Trilogies are pieces of crap, no matter what you do to them and then turn right around say that the Empire Sniper is such a great marker.

I mean they may not be the same marker. But they use the same size valve system and that makes me wonder. Anyone else?


My trilogy sniper that I built.


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Old 02-25-2012, 02:28 AM #3
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Entirely coincidental. There would be no way to seal the vertical ASA from the Trilogy bodies.
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:06 AM #4
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I don't see it.
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:14 AM #5
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thats a strecth, yeah it has the same internals since they bought out the rights to the marker line. But making that assumption due to the feedneck area is like saying the stole ecplipses feedneck
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:53 AM #6
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yeah, those arent trillogy bodies.
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Old 02-25-2012, 11:32 AM #7
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thats a strecth, yeah it has the same internals since they bought out the rights to the marker line. But making that assumption due to the feedneck area is like saying the stole ecplipses feedneck
I think it's more like "same size valve". Otherwise, the internals should be vastly different.
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Old 02-25-2012, 11:55 AM #8
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I'm not dissing Simon or KEE in any way. I just hate for people to say that Trilogies are pieces of crap, no matter what you do to them and then turn right around say that the Empire Sniper is such a great marker.

I mean they may not be the same marker. But they use the same size valve system and that makes me wonder. Anyone else?


My trilogy sniper that I built.


Empire sniper (pay close attention to the feedneck around):
See, this made perfect sense to me. Not much for semi Trillies but I've only seen one trouble addled pump Trilogy and that was due to user incompetence. Paying for the quicker adjustability/tuning and all the fine extras is worth the extra ends for someone who plays pump regularly IMHO. I do think the Sniper is a waste of money for someone that will simply buy it for saying they have it but never uses it. For the money buying the Sniper and thinking of it as a fully upgraded Trilogy is not necessarily a bad thing.
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Old 02-25-2012, 12:04 PM #9
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It's not from the same bodies or even the same CAD. None of the parts are even from the same manufacturer that JT/WGP used to use. That round at the feedneck area is a just a good way to machine the bodies, but leave a boss or flat for the feedneck. You'll see the same thing on the Mini and Axe (it's more subtle on them as the feedneck sits a little lower because you don't need the space to pull a bolt pin up and out).
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Old 02-25-2012, 12:21 PM #10
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Old 02-25-2012, 01:17 PM #12
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Same size valve =/= Same gun.
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Old 02-25-2012, 02:42 PM #13
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He's right though: Trilogy pumps don't get the respect they deserve.
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Old 02-25-2012, 07:33 PM #14
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It's kinda flattering actually. Taking a stock engine and building a race (car/gun/plane) around it is how companies get people to buy their stuff and most everyone want to buy this one. Rather than spending the Sniper cost one could choose a single trigger frame, pump kit, reg, and barrel kit and still have to mill their Trilogy for half/mid blocking, mini front block, and feed to accept a clamping neck. Personally I'd love to buy and shoot rather than build right now. Less time working is more time shooting faces.
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:23 AM #15
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Thanks for the response Simon!
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Old 02-26-2012, 06:30 PM #16
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on a side note, not a bad trilogy there.
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Im very inpresesed with the empire sniper. I didn't think it would hold a candle to my s6. But I was proven wrong an more. Its well worth it for the money to say the least.
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Old 02-27-2012, 12:56 AM #18
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on a side note, not a bad trilogy there.
Sold it locally. Replaced the feedneck on it with a black one.
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:00 AM #19
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my question is can i mini the sniper body like an old cocker yall see the gap between the trigger and reg want that obsolete do it same as my cockers is that possible where is valve located inside to far forward to mini it.. opinions
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put small cocker block and mini reg adapter screw back together seems possible havent gotten my sniper from ans yet so trying get a few ideas.
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:03 AM #21
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my question is can i mini the sniper body like an old cocker yall see the gap between the trigger and reg want that obsolete do it same as my cockers is that possible where is valve located inside to far forward to mini it.. opinions
If I had to guess (and I'm sure that Simon can come in here and answer your question very easily) then the valve hole should be within an inch behind where the eye covers bolt to be body.
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