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Old 02-24-2012, 08:36 AM #43
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Unfortunately it is something that needs a dedicated field, free or low cost paint, and it needs to be set up on a demo basis at national events.

Let people get out and shoot it and see what could be. If it is good it will be seen, if it sucks it will be seen. Trying it is key...
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:13 AM #44
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ya, it needs to be put out there but it wont be
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:12 PM #45
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50. cal is carbage. I wish people would stop trying to change the game of paintball. Its good how it is. Ill never switch to 50 cal. I hope its dead by now.
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:51 PM #46
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I think the goal of the .50-cal movement was to provide a lower-pain, cheaper paint, and less expensive platform for new players to get into paintball with. The problem was, the paint never was very cheap, nor was it available, so the .50-cal stuff really didn't gain any ground in the community. I've seen a total of one .43 caliber pistol at my field, and no .50-cals because there simply isn't a place to buy .50-cal paint anywhere near here. So, yes, I think it exploded in the hangar. There are a few people who own .50-cal stuff, but I don't think that they'll be happy with their setups when paint prices go sky-high!
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:51 PM #47
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Its not changing the game majorly so calm down....

.50 cal paintball does has its ups such as the paint its self. You can hold a lot more in your pods and hoppers so more paint on the field and more paint to shoot. But there was never a real push to it and it was a blow out. No need for it since paintball has been setup for .68 cal. Now if you want to make your own field and not have to use a lot of money for paint than maybe you can have the first .50 cal field. Only company I see trying to make a push is Spyder. And what is up with the .43 cal?
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:16 PM #48
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:43 AM #49
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One of the biggest problems was insurance.

By that I mean that the insurance companies didn't like the idea of a .50 ball being shot at a more reasonable speed like 380-400. If we'd been able to shoot at that sort of velocity then most if not all of the disadvantages of .50 would be negated without being any more dangerous - in fact the paint would go straighter. 50 cal at 380 wont hurt any more than 68 at 300 and wont do any more damage.

Here in NZ most RAM .43 players chrono at 380 as they consider that a safe speed. We don't have to worry about insurance so it just makes sense. Because of that .50 could probably have worked over here.

The other main reason .50 died was that it was marketed all wrong. Heck it was worse than the marketing for John Carter. They were busy talking about how .50 was going to take over the whole of paintball and become the new standard while making all kinds of false claims about it's performance. What they should have done was to market it for what it's actually good for: cheaper paint for field owners, and less pain for punters. Second to that the ability to carry more paint could have been marketed to players who need to lay down a heavy stream. Unfortunately they didn't do this preferring instead to treat us all like idiots and pretend the product was revolutionary. It was a massive marketing fail and I posted about it at the time (I have a marketing degree) but of course they thought they knew best.

Another area where .50 did actually make sense was milsim. It's a much better size for magfed markers, allowing more realistic looking markers and things like 30 round mags less than a yard long (unlike RAP4 and co). They must have known this, starting a brand called GI "milsim". The problems were several. For one, the brand focused on anything but milsim, becoming an extremely diluted brand that nobody really understood. For two, the 300fps problem mentioned above. For three, the whole idea was doomed because of their false claims in the first place.

And that is why .50 cal is dead
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:53 PM #50
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If only insurance companies understood basic physics a lighter object going faster and a slower heavier object can have the same force of impact and thats what matters, not velocity but highest force of impact. I would have loved using .50 in various forms, pistol, mags, laying paint down, great for people who think the sport hurts too much etc wouldve been fun to piss paint and not worry about how much it costs, and theoretically depending on how well it keeps momentum/energy faster fps means less leading the target
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:00 AM #51
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If Bob Long put out a .50 cal kit for the Vice/G6R like the one Planet Eclipse made only a little bit cheaper, I would check out .50 cal for sure, even if I had to order my paint online. If Bob Long got on board and put out a kit for Marq's and Timmy's I think that would get a good segment of the pb community interested.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:13 PM #56
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If Bob Long put out a .50 cal kit for the Vice/G6R like the one Planet Eclipse made only a little bit cheaper, I would check out .50 cal for sure, even if I had to order my paint online. If Bob Long got on board and put out a kit for Marq's and Timmy's I think that would get a good segment of the pb community interested.
I think bob originally had the idea to do that but never went through. There just isn't enough interest in 50 cal
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:40 PM #58
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goin in on new 50 cal this weekend good products great guns by spyder
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Old 04-03-2012, 10:24 PM #59
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in my own opinion it is dead.
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I think it was a decent idea, but 68cal was just so established and everyone used it, i also dont think 50cal had very much publicity.
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.50 never began.
This^^ .50 cal was tried before and didn't stick around long.
.50 cal was doomed to fail a long time before any of this GI Milsim crap happened. It is dead.
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