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Old 02-12-2012, 04:18 AM #1
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Unhappy Alpha black valve issue...

After tampering with my marker and adjusting new parts I had bought for it (hairpin trigger kit) I have encountered a problem. As my marker fires, the hammer does not recoil back to the sear to await its next shot. This is after I removed the kit and placed the stock pins back in. My air was not low and I did not hear any leaks. I am predicting itís my valve that broke when firing my marker during the adjustments of the kit but I could be wrong and thatís why I ask the following. Does anybody know how to repair this or am I better off with a new valve?


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Old 02-12-2012, 04:23 AM #2
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Unless you took the valve out, it shouldn't be broken.
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Old 02-12-2012, 04:25 AM #3
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Unless you took the valve out, it shouldn't be broken.
I did take the valve out to install it in my new powertube. Think it might be my 0 kick hammer? Im hearing it has its fair share of issues with the valve...
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Old 02-12-2012, 09:01 AM #4
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This is what the inside of your valve should look like.

Did you purchase a new spring kit as well? I've heard about a lot of problems with this zero-kick hammer thing. Try reinstalling the original bolt with the hair pin trigger and see if anything improves.
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Old 02-12-2012, 09:17 AM #5
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This is what the inside of your valve should look like.

Did you purchase a new spring kit as well? I've heard about a lot of problems with this zero-kick hammer thing. Try reinstalling the original bolt with the hair pin trigger and see if anything improves.
will do, where may i purchace this spring kit?
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Old 02-12-2012, 09:31 AM #6
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I got the BT spring kit somewhere online for my A-5 (should be same for all Tippmanns) but try the other methods of fixing your marker before you go out an buy something.

I just feel that you would need a harder spring to compensate for the lack of kinetic energy in a lighter bolt.

Like I said before, always go from the cheapest to the most expensive fix. Don't start throwing money away.

So, put the Hairpin trigger kit back in along with the stock bolt to see if anything improves. If not, put all of the stock parts back in to verify the marker still works in its original state.

I want to eliminate the variables.
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Old 02-12-2012, 09:43 AM #7
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I got the BT spring kit somewhere online for my A-5 (should be same for all Tippmanns) but try the other methods of fixing your marker before you go out an buy something.

I just feel that you would need a harder spring to compensate for the lack of kinetic energy in a lighter bolt.

Like I said before, always go from the cheapest to the most expensive fix. Don't start throwing money away.

So, put the Hairpin trigger kit back in along with the stock bolt to see if anything improves. If not, put all of the stock parts back in to verify the marker still works in its original state.

I want to eliminate the variables.
will do! Thankyou so much youv been wonderful help!
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No problem. Hopefully we can get this worked out.
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:03 PM #9
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You're probably right about the ZKH, but I agree with Chester, try the stock hammer and make sure it's not the new power tube. I've read that some of the aftermarket power tubes are more trouble than they are worth.

Assuming there is no issue with the power tube all you need is a lighter weight valve spring. I used Techt's, to get my ZKH to work, its like $4 on their website.
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:06 AM #10
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It is the hammer I believe, They also sell a spring kit to go with it.

Go back to stock. Then swap one part at a time starting with the Powertube. Test fire it each time until you find the part that is causing the issue.
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It is the hammer I believe, They also sell a spring kit to go with it.

Go back to stock. Then swap the parts one at a time starting with the Powertube. Test fire it each time until you find the part that is causing the issue.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:05 AM #12
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This is what the inside of your valve should look like.

Did you purchase a new spring kit as well? I've heard about a lot of problems with this zero-kick hammer thing. Try reinstalling the original bolt with the hair pin trigger and see if anything improves.

that looks like an a5/x7 valve, correct me if im wrong but i am pretty sure the alpha black has the same valve as the 98c. if so...you will need snap ring pliers to take it apart...and if you don't know what you are doing...don't do it.

to the op,
go back to the stock power tube and get rid of the zkh or get a spring kit for it.
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