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Old 02-08-2012, 05:29 PM #1
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Theft Report on $cashmoney$ or Lance Turpin

First theft report ever so If I need to post more stuff let me know.

Original deal was my DM8 for his NXT +$90 gifted in paypal. This went through and worked out fine. He receives marker and tells me that its in terrible condition with many scratches and that the eyes don't work, and he wants the shocker back. I tell him that can't be true, I posted and sent him many pictures and pointed out the one known scratch which was located on the barrel. And also the guy just came back from being repaired at Dye 2 days before I sent it to him, and was only shot once to make sure it worked. He says I'm lying, etc. So I agree to send everything back if he pays for me to ship it back for $10. He said just refund me $80 instead of $90 on paypal. Which I did. He received his NXT back today and claims that there is now a chunk out of the bolt guide and that the stock board is broken into 5 pieces. I told him that I put it in the same packaging that he sent the virtue board in, and then bubble wrapped it. In fact I bubble wrapped everything, and it was in a small box so it couldn't all get thrown around. Now he wants compensation for the broken board, when he didn't request that I get shipping insurance and I don't think that its broken in the first place. Also I have yet to receive my DM8 back.

He texted me a lot of the time and unfortunately I have an old motorola razr that has seen much much better days, and I only have his address, tracking number, and him saying that the problems with nxt and board. I can type out exactly what it says or take a picture of my screen with a camera if needed. If really necessary I can try to contact at&t and see if they can give me a list of everything typed.

Link to my DM8: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3745119

Link to his Nxt: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3745850

Pics that I sent him of DM8








Pics that I took after receiving NXT



Unfortunately I do not have a video of either gun, I didn't think it was necessary at the time.

Picture of invoice from DYE after the repair


My next post will be reserved for screen shots, I have a lot.

If needed I can take closer zoomed in pics of screen shots, or anything else desired. Thanks.
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:29 PM #2
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Every PM that I have will be posted here as well as proof that I refunded his money.

Links to screen shots since when I posted them as pics they were to small.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Capture-1.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...Capture2-1.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...Capture3-1.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...8/Capture4.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...8/Capture5.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...8/Capture6.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...8/Capture7.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...8/Capture8.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...8/Capture9.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Capture10.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Capture11.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Capture12.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Capture14.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Capture15.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Capture16.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Capture17.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Capture18.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Capture20.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Capture23.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Capture24.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Capture25.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Capture26.png

Heres a link to my photobucket album if that helps. http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s272/pball72008/

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Old 02-08-2012, 05:35 PM #3
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Reserved for other stuff I guess.

Sorry If I missed or double posted one for there are a lot. If more information is needed let me know.

Basically I feel that I shouldn't have to pay to fix his board, don't deserve negative feedback, and want to make sure I receive my gun.

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Old 02-08-2012, 07:44 PM #4
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Can he PROVE that there is damage to his marker?
Sounds very shady.

Your screenshots are way too small for me to read.
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:15 PM #5
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It does sound shady. That nxt is up on eBay right now. I don't see any marks on the bolt guide. And he says it works fine.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:18 PM #6
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this is why you should always video everything
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:01 PM #7
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Forget a video. Clearly he is a revenge trader. He just expects you to give him money but at this point you have sent this gun back. NO DEAL HAS OCCURED. Feedback cannot be left and you have done everything you can to make the situation correct and prove your innocent. Get your gun back and learn a lesson.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:39 PM #8
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Items/money has exchanged hands. A deal has occurred, and feedback can be left accordingly. pball72008, ask for proof of the damage he is claiming. Also, the screen shots you posted are too small to read.

teddyshooterv2, please stop giving out bad/incorrect advice. Thank You.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:10 AM #9
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HERES the PROOF of NO DAMAGE

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Items/money has exchanged hands. A deal has occurred, and feedback can be left accordingly. pball72008, ask for proof of the damage he is claiming. Also, the screen shots you posted are too small to read.

teddyshooterv2, please stop giving out bad/incorrect advice. Thank You.
HERES YOUR PROOF



He just sent me this tonight and made the video tonight. The gun looks pretty clean to me and obviously the board is working just fine and not in 5 pieces.

The video is also listed as "private" so only people with the link can watch it...now that is sketchy. He obviously doesnt want other people like pball72008 seeing that it is in good working condition.
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He says everything is fine. Wow Im glad I checked this guy out before I made a deal with him. Hes defiantly a scammer in my book.
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:12 AM #11
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Items/money has exchanged hands. A deal has occurred, and feedback can be left accordingly. pball72008, ask for proof of the damage he is claiming. Also, the screen shots you posted are too small to read.

teddyshooterv2, please stop giving out bad/incorrect advice. Thank You.
I'll put links to the screen shots instead, give me a bit
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:25 AM #12
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He just sent me this tonight and made the video tonight. The gun looks pretty clean to me and obviously the board is working just fine and not in 5 pieces.

The video is also listed as "private" so only people with the link can watch it...now that is sketchy. He obviously doesnt want other people like pball72008 seeing that it is in good working condition.
I just pm'd him asking for proof, waiting on reply. But that pretty much shows that there is nothing wrong with it what so ever.

Except I put the virtue board in for him, the stock board was in the box that I sent everything back with. But it was all wrapped in bubble wrap, and he didn't request insurance, if the board is actually broken.

Still awaiting my gun, mail usually comes at 12, we will see then I guess.
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Got the gun. Appears to be fine actually, except the bottom button is jammed, no biggie. Awaiting pictures of his damage.
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Got the gun. Appears to be fine actually, except the bottom button is jammed, no biggie. Awaiting pictures of his damage.
according to the video i posted there is no damage
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Links to the damage that he sent me. Damage that happened from shipping, that he didn't request insurance on. Do I owe him then according to pbn rules?

He flashes it way to fast in the video for you to see any damage on the bolt.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:59 PM #16
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From reading theft report threads in the past it is the shipper's responsibility to get the item to the receiver in the condition stated even if the receiver does not request insurance. PBNation doesn't mediate deals so they don't have rules saying who's job it is to do what but every post I have seen in similar situations says it's your responsibility to make sure the item gets where it's supposed to go in the shape described regardless of if the buyer pays extra for insurance or not.

I believe that is what Paypal will tell you also (I realize Paypal was not involved here but just saying).
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From reading theft report threads in the past it is the shipper's responsibility to get the item to the receiver in the condition stated even if the receiver does not request insurance. PBNation doesn't mediate deals so they don't have rules saying who's job it is to do what but every post I have seen in similar situations says it's your responsibility to make sure the item gets where it's supposed to go in the shape described regardless of if the buyer pays extra for insurance or not.

I believe that is what Paypal will tell you also (I realize Paypal was not involved here but just saying).
Ok good to know, thanks. I will wait for a mod to confirm this. No offense to you.

Also will be uploading a video shortly (waiting for it to process or whatever) of proof that my gun was in great condition and that the eyes work.

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Old 02-09-2012, 07:46 PM #18
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Are you an idiot? Here is everyone's proof that my stock board came back broke, he put it in a plastic bag with the gun on top of it. The DM8 fires when the eyes are on! I wasn't going to leave you bad feedback because you sent my gun back but you have now given me no choice.







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And the gun does work because it has the VIRTUE board in it, i said the STOCK board came back broken. (separate outside of the gun) I have no idea why this guy is making me out to be a bad trader? My feedback speaks for itself.
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THE DAMAGE I AM CLAIMING IS THE STOCK BOARD!!!! NOT THE VIRTUE THAT IS IN THE GUN! (HENCE THE VIDEO) This is why in that screenshot you can see where I say "unfortunately it does not" after ion103 asked my if it came with the stock board!
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Ok good to know, thanks. I will wait for a mod to confirm this. No offense to you.

Also will be uploading a video shortly (waiting for it to process or whatever) of proof that my gun was in great condition and that the eyes work.

As you can see here the eyes work properly in the marker.

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