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Old 03-11-2012, 10:45 PM #652
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Old 03-11-2012, 10:46 PM #653
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Old 03-11-2012, 10:54 PM #654
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And I thought my dm12 had a lot of bolt orings..
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:15 PM #655
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Well, that's nice to see they are getting away from those 1x17 orings on the valve and switching to 017s. Should last a lot longer from than the previous Clones.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:16 PM #656
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That has more orings that the dye nt
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:35 PM #657
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Yeah, but I bet it actually works.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:50 PM #658
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This doesn't look much different from the regular Clone drive train.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:50 PM #659
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Macdev makes excellent products. I'm sure the GT will perform phenomenal.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:57 PM #660
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I'm just curious how they actually improved the thing... gas thru is hardlyy a gain in my book.
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:09 AM #661
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This does look like a lot, but honestly after doing it a couple times its going to be no big deal.
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:15 AM #662
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MacDev's spool bolt systems are by far the smoothest of any spool valved gun, just wish they could make them less complicated.
I agree.
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:27 AM #663
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The key is moving o-rings. Everybody goes on about how complicated the VX's bolt was but i learned how to take apart my clones vx bolt in two disasemblies. If they make an drive train that works properly and gives you very few problems as most of the o-rings are not moving then why complain about it.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:41 AM #664
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It looks more intimidating than it is. I would say it is pretty easy stuff. And for the record, it is very much alike the vx drivetrain, but they have changed up quite a few orings wich they claim will have quite the benefit. And of course the face of the bolt is new. It is also gas through, if that is not enough, i dont know what is.
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:09 AM #665
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Why is it that people hate on MacDev for all the o-rings. When infact I've never had an issue with my bolt.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:06 AM #666
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Improvements are looking good! Can't wait for this to actually come out
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:26 AM #667
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wonder the efficentcy
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:49 AM #668
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Probably a little bit better than the VX which was already pretty good.
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:30 PM #669
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anyone have insight to what the effects will be of switching to the standard sized orings on the valves? or is the standard size orings on the valve a result of something else rather than a cause?

I understand durability will be improved, I'd have to imagine spacing between the vents in the valve keg will have to change to accommodate the larger diameter of the valve orings/spacing?
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:37 PM #670
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anyone have insight to what the effects will be of switching to the standard sized orings on the valves? or is the standard size orings on the valve a result of something else rather than a cause?

I understand durability will be improved, I'd have to imagine spacing between the vents in the valve keg will have to change to accommodate the larger diameter of the valve orings/spacing?
I would think so - maybe to solve the shredding valve orings that never TRULY went away in the clone (including VX's)
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MacDev strikes yet again, with all the o-rings in that kit they could have supplied a third world country with a years supply of condoms. But no, lets overly complicate this for the end user.
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:52 PM #672
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the majority of their orings are static, not dynamic, so it isn't like the droid that had 7 or 8 dynamic(moving) orings, I believe the clones only have 3-4.

Improvements are that it is even more gentle on paint while retaining its efficiency(proposed 1700+ when broken in) and how smooth it is. Plus the tool-less bolt removal is always nice and I would consider an improvement also.
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