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Old 04-03-2012, 05:17 AM #841
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:38 AM #842
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Like Dan said once "There are always 3 sides to a store. Side A, side B, and the truth." So whats the truth?...Who knows, but this is all in the past now.
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eclipse definitely ****ed them, there is no way eclipse would admit it either. Not a fan of jack at all
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Jack also trashed WGP and cockers, when he talks about the eblade and the fact that cockers weren't cutting it.

the karnivore was lighter faster more consistent , quieter and had less kick then the ego 5.

the only thing the ego 5 may have beat it in was efficiency and thats a maybe.
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**** eclipse , its only a matter of time before bob long makes them irrelevant
Remember eclipse and jack have done a lot for the cocker world. Granted the majority of the work was Keith and Steve Belsey who will never get credit but none the less. Jack is a very nice guy as well. Although I do remember the vid where him and the guy from xsv dog on the cocker. Also the karnivore is way more effecient as well do to the independant valving.

I do think something happend though. It seems odd that they would have a private agreement if eclipse did not infringe anything. Also curious about the relationship between eclipse and smart parts at the time. Seeing as they used to be the parent company and they sued aka right before the release of the ego.
It also seems unlikely that eclipse would make only the frame because the 05 ego was just an eblade without a clapper, buttons, and new grips. It seems even less likely that eclipse would make 2 different open bolt poppets.

Regardless belsales and aka are probably the two greatest paintball companies to exist. Followed shortly by bob and macdev.
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Old 04-03-2012, 08:41 AM #843
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i hate it when really good ideas and thing that can benefit others get squashed because of money. that's what all of that really came down to, is that people realized they could make a lot of money, and didn't want anyone else to get their hands on that money.

that being said, i've owed an 05, 06, and 08 ego. i still have the 08. i got it with a zick, lp valve guide, and hush bolt. it doesn't shoot bad, but my g6r kills it. i don't think pe stuff is bad, it's not for everyone, and they charge a retarded amount for their stuff. i really can't say much about the e-blade because i've not had a decent e-bladed cocker. i don't think it's the e-blade's fault, i think it's the cocker and the builder of said cocker. i've never shot a karni for comparison.

now i am a bob long fan boy. my g6r is the best shooting gun i've ever shot, and i've shot a lot. but evey one of the bob longs i've owned has been nice, especially the stacked tube poppits. my only real complaint about the marqs is how finnicky they are about pressures and bore match. my closer is one of my most favorite guns ever as well.

aka hands down make some of if not the best regs on the market, and they have for a while. i've put their stuff on a number of guns in the past and never had a problem. macdev is also kind of underrated. 05-07 cyborgs are sweet, i'd love to pick up another some day. they're tall, but man do they shoot nice and are just as easy to maintain as an ego.

as far as packaging is concerned, meh, don't care too much. look at the creed, crazy nice case, all kinds of little do-dads. i think the only thing i ever touched in that creed case when i had one was the charger and the allen keys. i have a couple nice sets of allen keys, as i imagine most of you guys who work on guns do, so if a gun comes with a set or not i don't care. the g6r came in a cardboard box with foam. i have a bag i put it in when i take it out to play. i dunno, i think i'd rather spend my $$ on the gun and not all the extra crap that comes with it.
anyway, that's my 2 cents, sorry for the ramblings.
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looks like pbgateway put more old WGP stuff on clearance:

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hot damn they got a lot of nice stuff for sale cheap. $80 for a BM body, 50 for a mini undrilled orracle, $25 for a worrblade frame and trigger... I really really want a yellow one for my black magic, but it's supposed to be sold lol
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Remember eclipse and jack have done a lot for the cocker world. Granted the majority of the work was Keith and Steve Belsey who will never get credit but none the less. Jack is a very nice guy as well. Although I do remember the vid where him and the guy from xsv dog on the cocker. Also the karnivore is way more effecient as well do to the independant valving.

I do think something happend though. It seems odd that they would have a private agreement if eclipse did not infringe anything. Also curious about the relationship between eclipse and smart parts at the time. Seeing as they used to be the parent company and they sued aka right before the release of the ego.
It also seems unlikely that eclipse would make only the frame because the 05 ego was just an eblade without a clapper, buttons, and new grips. It seems even less likely that eclipse would make 2 different open bolt poppets.

Regardless belsales and aka are probably the two greatest paintball companies to exist. Followed shortly by bob and macdev.
you look at the evil M, the bodies the internals ect. you really think they were bull****ting when they said eclipse was supposed to make the frame?

if race was making the frame why wouldn't they have made it?
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Old 04-03-2012, 02:10 PM #846
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I agree yuik. It seems unlikely that they would be working on 2 seperate guns of similar platform. Another oddity to the case is why aka sent them the gun.
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nice guns, were you the guy who cleared out some shops cocker inventory?
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was that a 3 man dover?
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that was standard 5-player i wuz reffing in da desert heat

hey check this out, speaking of AKA ... this guy says he invented the Ramrod barrel and has something better

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Slightly longer....



The same guts... Including Orings.



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For reference... Autococker threads on the left. Autococker threads on the right.



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A more suitable barrel tip... Courtesy of AKA. Total length? 17 inches from tip to tail... That would be 15.75 inches from tip to gun body.
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