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Old 01-11-2012, 03:43 PM #64
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They weren't nearly as popular though as far as I knew. But I'm not from that area, so I could be mistaken as to what you North Easterners like/dislike. Hell, I still don't even know what the heck cream chipped beef is.
In fact up North you’d probably find 187 to have a bigger fan base with actual players than the Canes I don’t know of any teams that have beef with them. 187 has always been that team that kicked you *** and didn’t do it being a ****bag lol (at least my experience). All good guys and Id expect them to step right into the power vacuum that is left behind by the Canes.

Canes have been around longer been in the spotlight more times so people outside know the name. However regionally and currently 187 would have likely won the popularity contest.

I’m just glad to see that Stein will be still doing paintball…Perhaps not running a team but at least something. That’s the silver lining to this story.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:33 PM #65
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Has nothing to do with a unified league. Has nothing to do with players growing old and getting on with life. Had a lot to do with me getting on with life, though.

Forget paintball on TV. Even the discussion hurts the sport. I work for an interactive TV company. Before that I worked for an agency. Paintball on TV is not going to happen any time soon. At least not the way we’ve been trying to do it.

And there are no investors. Only spenders.

And it is plenty profitable at the local, field level.
This is off topic and I am more then likely mis-informed and simply ignorant when it come to this subject. But never said paintball is not profitable. I have seen through local family start-up fields how profitable it can be when done properly. Simply that in my opinion this sport at this point on a tournament level is still somewhat in it's infancy as far as it's maximum level which it can achieve. I am not saying I ever expect to see Avalanche with a 20 man roster all pulling a 200k+ salary or something. But this sport has room to grow.

What I meant by investors is anybody who puts $1 into the sport, sponsors, and primarily ones that are not from the paintball industry. Again always room for expansion.

Nothing was ever done by people not discussing it. If players want a single national league then why does it harm the sport discussing it,or also if they do not want it. Same goes for it being televised. Like I said before I know I do not know the 100%logistics and chances of any of this happening but talking about this is what this site is about and how things come to be, or how they are realized as non-feasible. But I do not understand how it is detrimental to the sport in any way.

And last, he asked why several team including the Canes were closing shop, I know other teams it has been due to things such as players personal lives. That statement was mainly directed towards the subject of other teams. I do ot know the fine details of the situation with you guys, never claimed to.

But sorry if I made you mad by anything I said before or in this post.


On the main subject: what I forgot to put in my initial post, and after what Wonka has said.
No matter if your a Canes fan or not seeing a team that has been around for quite some time close up shop is an unfortunate thing to see. Even if they were your teams #1 rival still have to look at it as a loss for the sport. I do not look at Wonka's initial post as anything hostile or rude. Was his personal opinion and he did not really say anything that discredited the Cane's and what they did over the years as a team and organization.

Best of luck to the whole crew and there own futures.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:42 PM #66
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They won the Chicago PSP in D1.
u rite u rite .......but they were a pro team at 1 time and well they just didn't get back to that level (which i think they were trying to do).....i do like them and it is sad to see them go especially having the dedicated people they had
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:42 PM #67
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:45 PM #68
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Didn't some of the players also go to LIFT? correct me if i'm wrong
Yes, Alfred went back to LIFT and Keith Devit also migrated to their squad.
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In fact up North you’d probably find 187 to have a bigger fan base with actual players than the Canes I don’t know of any teams that have beef with them. All good guys and Id expect them to step right into the power vacuum that is left behind by the Canes.

Canes have been around longer been in the spotlight more times so people outside know the name. However regionally and currently 187 would have likely won the popularity contest.

I’m just glad to see that Stein will be still doing paintball…Perhaps not running a team but at least something. That’s the silver lining to this story.
Agreed on all counts
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:35 PM #70
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In fact up North you’d probably find 187 to have a bigger fan base with actual players than the Canes I don’t know of any teams that have beef with them. 187 has always been that team that kicked you *** and didn’t do it being a ****bag lol (at least my experience). All good guys and Id expect them to step right into the power vacuum that is left behind by the Canes.

Canes have been around longer been in the spotlight more times so people outside know the name. However regionally and currently 187 would have likely won the popularity contest.

I’m just glad to see that Stein will be still doing paintball…Perhaps not running a team but at least something. That’s the silver lining to this story.
granted, ive been out of paintball for a year now, but im from NH and have never even heard of 187 yet iv'e played with a few members of the Canes in the past..... they seemed like some decent guys
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:46 PM #71
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granted, ive been out of paintball for a year now, but im from NH and have never even heard of 187 yet iv'e played with a few members of the Canes in the past..... they seemed like some decent guys
187 crew has always been one of those relatively low key teams, they have mostly always played out of fox4 (upton, ma) besides their national events. So it's not surprising being from NH you haven't heard of them. One could definitely say they keep their mouths relatively shut and let their guns do the talking, and well they definitely did that very well the past 2 years.
Plus I have to love 187 since 2 of my former uconn teammates play with them
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:31 PM #72
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Dang. Jeff used to let me pod hoe for them when they would play HB. There goes my players passes.....
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:51 AM #73
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It sounds like effort required to manage a tournament team was not worth the utility. Jeff will still be actively involved over at Warzone and when they finish the air ball field there will be sponsored teams. This is by no means a complete retirement from the paintball community.
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:51 PM #74
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i was SURE these guys were going to go pro again?! AHHH!! hurricanes was my favorite team for sure. i will miss them :'(
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Again....I give it a couple seasons, just like vicious, vision, joy, ect. Just a name anymore, no one carries over from the previous team anymore anyways
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Old 01-14-2012, 01:38 AM #76
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i was SURE these guys were going to go pro again?! AHHH!! hurricanes was my favorite team for sure. i will miss them :'(
Everyone thought vision (one of smart parts teams from bitd) was going to go pro again when they came back, they just faded away. The greg pauly vicious team (new vicious) is about the only team to ever drop from pro, reclaim their name and work their way back from d2/d3 all the way back to pro. Took them years to rebuild the team and the name, that was during a good economy too.

Sucks to try to run a team in this economy of 1/4 the prize packages of 6 years ago
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:00 AM #77
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No ways, I always dug the Hurricanes.
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Old 01-15-2012, 11:59 AM #78
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:03 PM #79
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Everyone thought vision (one of smart parts teams from bitd) was going to go pro again when they came back, they just faded away. The greg pauly vicious team (new vicious) is about the only team to ever drop from pro, reclaim their name and work their way back from d2/d3 all the way back to pro. Took them years to rebuild the team and the name, that was during a good economy too.
Who was Vision? From where? They were pro?

The OG Vicious team also wasn't ever Pro. All of their players went Pro, but not as a team.
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Dont worry about wonka he hasnt even graduated college but is somehow an expert on life.
This doesn't make you come off as pretentious at all...

You do realize that many of the great minds you've been reading about/have read about in college...never graduated from college. Neither did many successful entrepreneurs in the 20th or 21st century.

He's entitled to his opinion, even if it isnt up to your local community college standards.
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could of swore I just saw a rebirth web seriers here about the Canes a year or so back, looks like they never got back on their feet
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This doesn't make you come off as pretentious at all...

You do realize that many of the great minds you've been reading about/have read about in college...never graduated from college. Neither did many successful entrepreneurs in the 20th or 21st century.

He's entitled to his opinion, even if it isnt up to your local community college standards.
Please re-read his posts to understand what you are commenting on
My qoute has nothing to do with college or community college. It's about someone consistently acting like a know it all douche.
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i thought they were done last year? damn missing the times.
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