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Old 04-20-2012, 12:58 PM #1051
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^^^Was going to say that.

Terran I think is hardest in lower leagues, because the units by definition are weaker than toss, they don't get the macro advantage of zerg, and terran units require more micro and need to be positionally placed well in order to be cost effective with them.

Mass replenishment of units isn't an option either for terran, where zergs can just spam speedlings after a big engagement, or toss can warp in reinforcements.

But yeah, I think in masters league and above, all that dissappears bc players are really good. But that doesn't mean that some races are easir/more forgiving for newer players than others.
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:25 PM #1052
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oh really? thats good, either way as long as terran doesnt hit 200 energy they can drop all the mules at once to catch up. Also I would think terran would be stronger lower leagues because it is extremely easy to micro terran units and you could just 3rax and beat toss with that since almost everyone in low leagues don't know how to use ff properly. For me though terran is the hardest race to macro with. I've never been really good at macroing with terran, even in BW.
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:36 PM #1053
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That's true, lower league Protosses probably lose a lot to allins/early pressure too. I would imagine that, if anything, the trends seen at higher levels are just amplified in lower leagues: Protoss not having the micro to ff/hold off early aggression, and Terran not being able to survive late game.
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:43 PM #1054
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pretty sure terran can still marine scv all in haha
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:45 PM #1055
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It's hard to count stuff like that..a bronze player could look up a solid build order for marine/scv allin and pretty much a-move all the way up to plat/diamond.
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:50 PM #1056
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exactly, players skills aren't really based on how well they can macro or whatever. its just based on how often they win games and who they win games against. thats why im confused when i see people in really low leagues like bronze or silver since its really easy to learn 1-2 solid builds and just do that to at least diamond
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:50 PM #1057
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I feel like bronze/silver shouldn't even count, those should be considered crap-shoot leagues, it's either you lose to an all-in or win with an all-in, then gold/plat considered the real 'lower-league,' because you can actually get some good games in but you still have bad game mechanics, then have diamond/master for the serious folk, and GM for those with too much time.
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Old 04-20-2012, 02:00 PM #1058
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all-ins are a part of the game, people do them in every league. people even do them in GSL and other major tournaments. so you shouldn't ignore those leagues. you just need to learn to deal with them
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:41 PM #1061
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:50 PM #1062
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:52 PM #1063
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What I'm saying is if you're playing z at the higher levels it isn't a big deal because its second nature and its just something you do. So it's not like its a skill because sooner or later people just inject, now at the highest levels they have to be right on top of their injects which they are so they can outmacro people easily
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:55 PM #1065
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yeah like lower leagues i can see its easy for players to forget to inject thus falling behind and eventually losing. higher leagues its just natural so its not like they're going out of their way or anything
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