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Old 12-19-2011, 06:24 PM #1
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shocker drop off/ball brakes/air issues

Hey all

I just took my shocker out today to get check it out and see how things are and I used the same settings as before and I am starting to now get fsdo and some ball brakes at high rof. Also I am getting a pod out of approx 500 psi.

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techt bolt w/ spring and both spacers
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Here are my settings

fire mode 1
debounce 5 ms
dwell 9ms
max ROF 15
AMB 3ms
eye delay 4ms
ABS 3ms

These are the settings that I used last summer and now issues are starting. What do you all think I should change to help with the fsdo and the ball brakes if anything.

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Old 12-19-2011, 06:37 PM #2
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i would use a rhino xl spring and check ur oring tolerances and dont use alot of lube and also what is the weather degree like where u are?
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:42 PM #3
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what pressure are you running. increasing your dwell will certainly help with your drop off issue.

when was the last time it was cleaned very well, including the reg?
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Old 12-19-2011, 09:58 PM #4
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Another question is how cold was it outside?

Edit - nevermind, just read shbby's full post
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Old 12-19-2011, 09:59 PM #5
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i would use a rhino xl spring and check ur oring tolerances and dont use alot of lube and also what is the weather degree like where u are?
The techt bolt requires boring to work with rhinos spring its not drop in unfortunately.

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Old 12-20-2011, 02:23 PM #6
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Temp is around 70ish, I am running around 120 psi if I had to guess shooting at around 275 to 280.

I just cleaned it the other night and used smartparts lube as I am susposed to. I was thinking that the ABS might need to be increased but I wasn't sure
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:01 PM #7
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It's 70 degree's in Canada right now? Man, maybe I should move north! haha

Raise your pressure if it's at 120. It should be around 180-200. That should give you much better results. I find it hard to believe it's shooting 280 at 120 psi.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:02 PM #8
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I would kill the ABS entirely and up your input pressure...120 is way too low even for a sprung bolt.

Try upping the dwell to 10ms and re-check your inline reg. I would guess that something is up with the reg if you have cleaned/lubed/changed the orings for the bolt.
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Seth beat me to the punch...

Ditto to what he said
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:13 PM #10
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I used it all last summer with these settings and had no problems at all. I turned to ABS up to 5 ms and it seems to be solved but still 500 psi for a pod does that sound right or is there something wrong here?

I also had a few shot skips when I was shooting high rof. The gun would cycle but no ball came out anyone have any ideas?

And I am using it inside lol its about 25 degrees outside lol
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:50 PM #11
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500 psi per pod would give you about 7-8 pods per fill, sounds average to me

As for the missed shots, it could be that your eyes are bad or they're not reading the ball in breech (reflective eyes?).

I would put your dwell around 10-12 ms and set the reg to about 180. From there you should be shooting golden
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:46 PM #12
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I have break beam eyes and I tried to pull the detents out to clean them but I think I stripped the screw on one of them and i have no idea how the hell to take it out

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Old 12-20-2011, 06:19 PM #13
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:09 PM #14
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Nxt if it was an sft I would just grab on with some vice grips lol
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:34 AM #15
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Try gently hammering a punch into it to bring the metal back in, and see if you can remove with the allenkey. or hammer the allenkey into it. But again be gentle. use a soft mallet.
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you can probably notch the screws and unscrew them using a flathead driver...
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:40 PM #17
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500psi to a pod out of a shocker is actually pretty good. my sft shocker with an evolve bolt kit got similar efficiency. unless if you've got some serious custom work (and by custom i don't mean having it hooked up with off the shelf parts) into this gun you need to turn your pressure up to 180-200psi and adjust your dwell. i've only used the stock nerve board in my shockers, which has no ABS adjustments at all, and with proper lubing of the gun i've never had FSDO, bolt stick, or shootdown issues.

in fact, before you turn your reg up and blow your solenoid try swapping your pressure gauge with one known to work that's accurate. i have a very hard time believing the gun is even able to fire a ball at that low of a pressure with that short of a dwell time.
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:35 PM #18
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I dont.. I have a naught dog shocker and im at 110-120 psi and at 280 fps...
But i have to see how much air one pod would be!
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What is your dwell at? with a closed body and an Lp can its not impossible. I have just a standard he can and my pressure is about 140-150
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good job on the necro.

Did OP get his gun fixed?
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