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Old 03-05-2015, 08:11 AM #1
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Azodin KP3 Review and Comparison

SO I had the chance to get a preproduction KP3 and jumped on it. I love the KP series and was excited to see all the changes they made to the marker in its latest iteration. This will be a simple review on the difference between the KP3 and its closest relative, the KP LE.



First things first, the overall feel of the gun is a bit lighter but more or less the same as the LE. The single trigger frame is solid and has a good grip in the hands. The trigger, while not the greatest, has no side to side play at least. Its still a semi-long pull before it trips the sear, and then has some post-travel that cant be adjusted. But seeing as how this is an entry market pump, this shouldn't really be an issue.



One of the most obvious changes, is the barrel. The LE came with a 12in barrel that used an oring on the lip of the threaded end to avoid rollouts. This has been done away with in favor of a 2-piece barrel with different sized backs available. depending on which version of the marker you pick up.I found that the stock .685 that came with my KP3 worked fine on the GI winter paint I am currently using and had no problems with rollouts.



Next, lets discuss the pump handle. The KP series has so-far used an aluminum handle that was milled into what I think is a very comfortable handle. It is easy on the hands and I like the weight behind the pump stroke. The KP3 has moved away from this to a delrin handle with an aluminum backplate. It obviously shaves some of the weight down, but you still get a solid feel to the pump stroke and the ridges cut into the handle provide excellent grip.



Moving down to the bottom of the marker, we see that the asa is now more contoured and shapely that the previous version. The twist knob is also smaller. This has been my only issue so far with the marker. The knob can sometimes be a bit stiff and hard to turn when both pressurizing and degassing the marker. All in all though, still a great asa for the price you are paying.



Not much to get into about the new arm rods and shuttle, other than it provides a much more stable pump stroke that the single rod on the LE.




The new bolt is now shorter and has an open face, a change from the longer bolt and venturi porting on the LE. They have also have now added o-rings around the air port on the bolt to make for a somewhat quieter and more efficient shot.



Now to the part that has changed the most. As you can see, the LE used a similar setup to most STBB markers (cupseal attached to spring attached to the pump guide). The KP3 now has a longer delrin cupseal that pushes inside the guide rod attachment and contacts an o-ring inside to create a better seal and minimize the farting. When test firing the marker, I had a hard time telling if it was farting or not. I think with proper tuning and spring tension, you could eliminate it all together. Not even counting that AZODIN is still hard at work trying to eliminate it completely so we dont have to. They are apparently working on minor parts fixes to solve the issue. I will let you know when that comes down the pipeline.



I hope this has helped somewhat with anyone looking into getting this marker. If you have any questions, I will try my best to answer. However, give me some extra time since im doing all this with a busted and bandaged thumb that I cant move, so things are kinda difficult right now lol.
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Old 03-05-2015, 09:32 AM #2
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Great review and comparison. It looks like you showcased all of the major differences of the new KP3 and it's older model. The marker looks great and I can't wait to get my hands on one.

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Old 03-05-2015, 09:39 AM #3
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Great review! Glad to see her in a new home.
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:05 AM #4
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I just want to know if it still farts...
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:12 AM #5
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:24 AM #6
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I just want to know if it still farts...
There will be a video up soon comparing the 2 shot signatures.
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:39 PM #7
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Thanks for this. Super informative and gives me further reason to order one online.
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Old 03-05-2015, 01:12 PM #8
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It's exactly what it needed to be. A few minor changes to an already great marker. Owned the previous model and loved the shot and pump stroke; however, I did not like a few other features. This fixes everyone of them. At $230 you will be seeing a lot of them. I've never pre ordered a marker, but may have to on this one.
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Old 03-05-2015, 02:26 PM #9
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Old 03-05-2015, 04:58 PM #11
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Wow the sound signature is so different! Huge improvement on the KP3 well done Azodin
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Old 03-05-2015, 07:32 PM #12
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that pump stroke looks and sounds a lot slicker and noticeably lighter too from the video.

I know I'm a cocksuck for a KP3 already but I'm still a cocksuck for a kp3 after this... so like... yay?
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:08 PM #13
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Yea . Worth the price, IMO, YeloSno
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:34 PM #14
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At this point, every video is just reinforcing the fact that I WILL be purchasing one of these.
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Old 03-09-2015, 03:21 PM #15
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There is also a rubber bushing(much like in the rear of the gun) added to the valve.
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Ordering this marker is the easy part. Color combo.... That's the only real decision.

Bravo Azodin! Its moves like this that will help open up paintball to the masses again. Pump makes paintball affordable to play and you brought a gun to market that is affordable to purchase. You guys are definitely doing it right.

Now if one of the paint companies can get a manufacturing process for paint that will bring the retail for a case near $25 for quality paint we'll really be in business.
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:32 PM #17
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Why do you need a case of paint for playing pump? I rarely go through a bag in a day. =P
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I think surflamj meant just in general. Not necessarily for pump.
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What is the barrel thread on the KP3?
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What is the barrel thread on the KP3?
Autococker (cocker) threaded barrel.
Detents are the old school Timmy/Spyder type.
I found that the various hex screws are a combination of both metric and standard.

More to follow when I get around to putting my review together.
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I'm just hoping someone puts out a replacement pump handle back plate with a Hitman mod.

I'm pretty much sold on this being my next pump.
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