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View Poll Results: To Hold or Not to Hold your pump handle?
To Hold 142 78.89%
Not to Hold 34 18.89%
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:36 PM #1
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To Hold or Not to Hold your pump handle?

I admit I am a reg holder and before that a CA bottle holder when I used to screw a 7oz tank straight into the vertical ASA. To me with a sniper rifle, my shot feels smoother and more accurate when you let go of the pump handle. Holding the reg allows you to pull the gun up to you very tight for a more accurate shot. Pump play is making your shot count not rate of fire.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:40 PM #2
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I have to hold the pump handle on my Trracer. If not the bolt/hammer will move and it will not fire. I actually think that having my hand under the barrel helps me aim better.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:55 PM #3
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If you don't hold the pump handle forward, in most cases, your velocity will suffer a hit (every action has an equal & opposite reaction) i.e. you'll see your bolt move backwards & lessening the velocity of the actual shot.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:56 PM #4
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For CCM markers, it will not fire if the pump handle is not returned all the way forward. If you go to bunker someone or if someone is coming to bunker you and the pump handle is just a hair back, you're in a world of trouble.

Also, you lose velocity if you pump handle slides back on other markers that allows the sear to trip the hammer and fire.
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Old 09-13-2011, 03:58 PM #5
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Generally hold. As the poster above says, with an AT if you don't assure the gun is in battery you are risking a misfire. However depending on how my body position is, sometimes I will hold the reg and hold the pump forward with my fingers.

However on certain occasions when I need a lob shot, I will release the handle and try to get a few FPS drop to increase the arc. Since I have an E-AT and not a linkage AT, I have that option.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:28 PM #6
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I never need to "hold" it forward.
That's what return springs are for.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:39 PM #7
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I never need to "hold" it forward.
That's what return springs are for.
Rarely if ever see return springs that can hold a gun in battery through a shot on snipers.
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Old 09-13-2011, 05:12 PM #8
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I dont hold it.
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Old 09-13-2011, 05:44 PM #9
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socal style = not holding the handle

i really depends. If you hold the pump handle you get a full velocity fart shot and your hands ready to pump again.(good for running and gunning or shooting alot)




if you dont hold the handle you get a nice quiet shot and you can keep tighter to your bunker. but you have to take half a second to recock the gun then grab the reg again. however its much easier to snap shoot. i shoot like this alot during open field rec/scenario style play where i have more cover and the field is more open.




really it doesnt matter. i switch back and forth as i see fit for the situation
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Old 09-13-2011, 05:45 PM #10
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For CCM markers, it will not fire if the pump handle is not returned all the way forward.
Would have to disagree. It really depends how you have your a/t timed.
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Old 09-13-2011, 05:55 PM #11
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Would have to disagree. It really depends how you have your a/t timed.
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:07 PM #12
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socal style = not holding the handle

i really depends. If you hold the pump handle you get a full velocity fart shot and your hands ready to pump again.(good for running and gunning or shooting alot)

if you dont hold the handle you get a nice quiet shot and you can keep tighter to your bunker. but you have to take half a second to recock the gun then grab the reg again. however its much easier to snap shoot. i shoot like this alot during open field rec/scenario style play where i have more cover and the field is more open.

really it doesnt matter. i switch back and forth as i see fit for the situation
If you have good springs it won't fart...also always hold it forward. No point in losing velocity
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:12 PM #13
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If you have good springs it won't fart...also always hold it forward. No point in losing velocity
in what situation has +/- 5 ever really mattered or effected the shot in any way? at the distances most paintball is played you would never even know the difference
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Would have to disagree. It really depends how you have your a/t timed.
If it's timed CORRECTLY it should not fire much out of battery *cough cough*

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No point in losing velocity
There sure is.
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:36 PM #15
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If you have good springs it won't fart...also always hold it forward. No point in losing velocity
I agree with a good spring match, less farting will occur.

I agree with holding the pump handle often.

I disagree that there is no point in losing velocity. A nice drop shot over a snake beam or carwash in the airball world makes me smile. How do you do that? Shoot while holding the reg. Also, not holding the pump results in a quieter shot, might be needed if you're getting your sneaky sneaky on.

Does it really matter? No. It's a game, have fun.

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Old 09-13-2011, 06:45 PM #16
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I've always shot holding the pump arm. It feels more comfortable to me and also steadies my aim. I don't know if the drop off in velocity is significant enough to make a difference but i've heard it does. Plus i don't want to spend an extra half second every time to bring my hand back up to pump. In our game that may make a difference for sure.
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If it's timed CORRECTLY it should not fire much out of battery *cough cough*

I hope you get over that cold. lol Nah j/k!!
My trigger breaks with a gap of 1/8". I find that setting it a little further out helps with any short stroking that may occur during a/t'ing.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:07 PM #18
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I never need to "hold" it forward.
That's what return springs are for.
I love me a good, firm return spring.

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Rarely if ever see return springs that can hold a gun in battery through a shot on snipers.
You can shoot mine and you'll see one that does
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:16 PM #19
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i need to hold my forward or else i get a double shot from the a/t cam.
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I hope you get over that cold. lol Nah j/k!!
My trigger breaks with a gap of 1/8". I find that setting it a little further out helps with any short stroking that may occur during a/t'ing.
1/8 is pretty close ... seems pretty proper. But you guys are the AT masters

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I love me a good, firm return spring.

You can shoot mine and you'll see one that does
Damn that thing must be like a red hammer spring. Vids?
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i need to hold my forward or else i get a double shot from the a/t cam.
If you do it right, you should be able to get a several-shot burst. I think I got 5 once on my T2.

Handle most of the time, reg maybe 10%. It seems easier to snapshoot and sometimes longball while holding the reg. Even with an autotrigger, I like having the option for a slight drop shot, I've shot lots of guys this way.
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