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Old 11-28-2011, 09:37 PM #1
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Question is wiping paint part of the game

is it true that wiping paint is part of playing paintball and that just cause lots of people do it or is it just cheating crap for the weak that don't play the game right

i think its cheating crap that's unacceptable

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Old 11-28-2011, 09:45 PM #2
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It is part of the game.

At least its not "cool" to wipe anymore.
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Old 11-28-2011, 10:05 PM #3
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yea it's parts of the game, but some wipes do happens on accident like getting hit in arm pad well a person is diving into a bunker. other times through they do it to stay into games, although it doesn't really help them if they get caught.
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wiping is cheating. if you're hit, you're hit. if u get hit on like the shoe or something and dont see or feel it and it wipes by accident, then ok....but if you intentionally wipe paint, you deserve to e bonus balled
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Old 11-28-2011, 11:49 PM #5
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Cheating is a part of every game.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:58 AM #7
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It's part of the game, especially at high level play. People will wipe small or unnoticed hits as it gives a better chance to win or place well. No one wipes 4 shots the the chest though, it's generally unobvious hits. Getting caught could lose the entire event, it's really ****ing hard to beat a team almost as good as you when you start with 3 guys vs their 5. No one likes to discuss it but it does happen.

wiping in recball is unacceptable though.
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Old 11-29-2011, 05:19 AM #8
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Wiping in paintball is part of the game in the same respect that cork bats are in baseball.
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is it true that wiping paint is part of playing paintball and that just cause lots of people do it or is it just cheating crap for the weak that don't play the game right

i think its cheating crap that's unacceptable

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well I put it this way:
is cheating on your tax return acceptable to you?
is cheating on your spouse acceptable to you?
is shoplifting acceptable to you?
is robing a bank acceptable to you?
is rape acceptable to you?
is murder acceptable to you?

If your answer is only if you don't get caught then I guess wiping is fine. If those are not acceptable to you but wiping is then you may have moral issues that you will have to work out later in life.

Anyone who justifies through rationalization has to live with themselves. aren't Moral Dilemmas fun?

When I ref I look for wiping. and if I catch you I'll make sure to throw a major penalty. Then I inform all the other refs that your team wipes so the next time you are on the field your team will not get the benifit of any doubt.
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wiping effectively without refs seeing it is a valid part of tourney paintball.
to do it at practices, walk-ons, pick up and rec games is totally not cool,
and it doesn't really get you anywhere. if you can do risk it when there's
something at stake and succeed, well refs have their own job to do too.
Don't justify poor sportsmanship by saying there is something on the line. There is "something on the line" in every sport or game you play but that does not make cheating any more acceptable.

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well I put it this way:
is cheating on your tax return acceptable to you?
is cheating on your spouse acceptable to you?
is shoplifting acceptable to you?
is robing a bank acceptable to you?
is rape acceptable to you?
is murder acceptable to you?

If your answer is only if you don't get caught then I guess wiping is fine. If those are not acceptable to you but wiping is then you may have moral issues that you will have to work out later in life.

Anyone who justifies through rationalization has to live with themselves. aren't Moral Dilemmas fun?

When I ref I look for wiping. and if I catch you I'll make sure to throw a major penalty. Then I inform all the other refs that your team wipes so the next time you are on the field your team will not get the benifit of any doubt.
There are no if, ands or buts about it: If you blatantly cheat you are a cheater and deserve to be thrown off the field regardless of whether it is a rec-day or a National tournament. Hell, even more-so, in my opinion, if you are taking the National stage and portraying our sport in a negative light.

I actually took this from Fubarius a couple months ago and posted it on my Facebok:

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You know what pissed me off about playing paintball? People who only pretend to play paintball. And when you wipe, that's what you're doing. It's all about the basic premise of the game. Shoot at player, hit player, player eliminated. Simple as that. Any deviation from that, say "hit player, and the player doesn't really, really want to stay in, and the ref is paying attention, player eliminated", well that's not paintball. It's something else that I have no interest in. No interest in playing, no interest in watching, no interest in rooting for. Might as well be a bunch of people shooting nerf darts at each other.- Fubarius (A moderator on PbNation.)
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:07 PM #11
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cheating is apart of the game. that doesn't mean i condone it or do it.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:16 PM #12
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Like in any sport, it happens. Is it fair? No. Do people do it? Yes. That is why we have refs to watch for that. This is speaking from a tournament view. If you are out having fun in recball and not playing competative, then you should have no motivation to wipe and doing it is jusk a dick move.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:30 PM #13
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It is a part of the game but it only hinders your team. First off, it gives your team a false representation of the level of play of the one wiping and the team as a whole unit. I mean it happens but the other issue is that there are major penalties if you get caught in a tournament. I know that on my team it is not acceptable. If your out your out. On top of that we don't want to risk the penalties.
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:05 PM #14
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:29 PM #15
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cheating is apart of the game. that doesn't mean i condone it or do it.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/condone


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"to disregard or overlook is to CONDONE"

The answer to the question asked in this topic would be to say NO. You want it to get better make it that way. Dont fill a thread with your mislead ideas of paintball and what you have been "taught" or should say havent been taught. CHEATING is wrong. < The fact that this has to be written...

Cheat to win and the win will mean nothing.
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People that get caught wiping or just not going out at my place get a verbal warning. If it happens again then I no longer invite that person out. Simple as that. Really says a lot about someones character and I don't want to play with un-honest people. Makes the game less fun for everyone else.
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People that get caught wiping or just not going out at my place get a verbal warning. If it happens again then I no longer invite that person out. Simple as that. Really says a lot about someones character and I don't want to play with un-honest people. Makes the game less fun for everyone else.



Couldn't agree more but it does happen some people just have no sportsmanship and feel they need to do whatever it takes to win. Instead of training and working harder they take they easy way and cheat. This type of person is out there and is a LOSER before even stepping on the field.
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Cheating is cheating. I donít wipe.... I donít understand how if youíre a pro team in a tournament its ok. But if youíre playing rec ball its wrong. If itís wrong its wrong all the time. You canít say its ok for someone to do it and then another person does it and it's wrong .

And if I see someone wipe I shoot them till thereís so much paint on them they canít wipe
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i like how every one on pbnation is ohnest. no cheaters here right...lol

i may not be the most eperinced player here but every time i have gone out and played ive witnesed some wiping. well at least most of the time. also if any one here says they have never ever wiped theey are simply not telling the truth.

I dont wipe every time I go out hell i try to be as honest as i can some times i call out with out breakes just to be fair. but sometimes i know the poeple im playing against wipe like crazy. i see one or two of my balls hit them, i know they wiped then they hit me so i wipe it off.

is it right that i did... no. but is it right that i call out when they were out... hell no.
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:19 PM #20
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Theres cheating in every sport. Don't shoot someone once..keep shooting until they walk off..problem solved for the most part
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This discussion has run its course. Playing honest is up to you. If you choose to cheat, know that sooner or later it will cost you.
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