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Old 12-16-2003, 05:56 PM #22
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Efficiency of a blowback? That's funny.
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Old 12-16-2003, 06:29 PM #23
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blowbacks are very efficient!!

my spyder had great efficiency and so does my omen

i think the viking is still king of the hill though . . .
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Old 12-16-2003, 06:45 PM #24
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Not very efficient but good efficiency. Very efficient is just south of Vikings
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Old 12-16-2003, 07:06 PM #25
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Viking + Angel air or maybe scion
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Old 12-16-2003, 10:55 PM #26
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Screw both of those, just get a crossfire screw in
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Old 12-16-2003, 11:13 PM #27
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Just tried a crossfire...didn't like it....centerflag is the only way to go
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Old 12-16-2003, 11:59 PM #28
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<---- owns centerflag 68/45
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Old 12-17-2003, 03:27 PM #29
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im old school sticking with a nice PE 68/45

never had problems
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Old 12-17-2003, 04:36 PM #30
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its just a fancey blowback, like a spyder!
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Old 12-17-2003, 05:05 PM #31
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except better, duh.
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Old 12-18-2003, 03:40 PM #32
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Fulnix, you were using an LP tank. Crossfire HPs are the best out there.
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Old 12-19-2003, 01:10 AM #33
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I'll have to try one....the LP Centerflag worked fine as did the an LP Nitroduck? It doesn't really matter if it's LP or HP does it? As long as it feeds the gun. It just might put a bit more stress on the Detonator right?
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Old 12-20-2003, 10:41 AM #34
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You want efficiency? Try a Nova.... now that's efficient. 95 p.s.i. output pressure.
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Old 12-20-2003, 10:56 AM #35
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LP is around 400-450 and you run the gun at 250-300, that's over regulation and it will constrict airflow. HP is the way to go, HP crossfires are some of the fastest recharging out there. LP is good on guns that run 450 or Angels because they can't do HP.
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Old 12-21-2003, 02:42 PM #36
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I love watching these animations, they're soooo sweet! nice work Dager, my hat goes off to you!
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Old 12-31-2003, 10:31 PM #37
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it's a spyder that has the bolt close, then fire. It's simple and elegant, yet there's a few pars moving, kinda Uck. I was trying to think of a design like that, but eventually ditched for my pursuit in favor of the creation of a more compact paintball marker, which I'm pushing now.

anyway, I have fired a few Omens, and I like it quite a bit. If I were to get a closed bolt, I would get an Omen.
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Old 01-03-2004, 03:57 AM #38
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thats awsome, but that looks virtually the same as a blowback spyder except for some minor differences.
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you're pretty smart, since its a closed-bolt blowback and all...at any rate, i love mine.
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I under stand and all, except for when the trigger is pulled the bolt goes back, and the ball shoots, and then when the bolt comes back theres another ball there, the force of the bolt should shoot the second ball, should it not? Some one please explain to me
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Old 01-03-2004, 09:53 PM #41
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I under stand and all, except for when the trigger is pulled the bolt goes back, and the ball shoots, and then when the bolt comes back theres another ball there, the force of the bolt should shoot the second ball, should it not? Some one please explain to me
First, once the trigger is pulled, the internal hammer hit the valve. The ball shoots. Next, the blow-back from the valve pushes the outer hammer, along with the inner hammer and bolt, back to the cocking position. Now the inner hammer catches the sear, and the outer hammer and bolt, which are connected to each other, move back forward from the springs' pressures. Once these two move back forward, the ball does not shoot. It simply awaits in the beginning of the barrel, waiting for the inner hammer to hit the valve/cup seal. When the outer hammer reaches the valve, it has a hole in it that goes around the cup-seal. When the inner hammer reaches the valve, it has a pin to press the cup seal/open the valve, just like a regular blow-back's hammer. Get what I'm saying?
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Old 01-03-2004, 09:58 PM #42
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Whoa, takes a few times to read but yeah I get what your saying. How does the ball not shoot is whats getting me, ball dedent?
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