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Old 05-24-2012, 01:34 PM #1702
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I do not have a problem with anything manufactured overseas ..I have a problem with doing business with overseas companies !!!!If you have a problem you have no legal recourse so if you buy a $1650.00 POS you are screwed and there is not a thing you can do about it!!!!So before I become a guniea pig for some New unproven $1650.00 Marker I want to know who I need to sue when it ****s up......
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:35 PM #1703
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I am interested to see the vapor, but I'd like to see the platform itself subjected to the abuses of the paintball community for a while before I will actually buy it. As of now I am a MacDev fanboy but am always willing to entertain others.
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I do not have a problem with anything manufactured overseas ..I have a problem with doing business with overseas companies !!!!If you have a problem you have no legal recourse so if you buy a $1650.00 POS you are screwed and there is not a thing you can do about it!!!!So before I become a guniea pig for some New unproven $1650.00 Marker I want to know who I need to sue when it ****s up......


What if it doesn't "f up"

Last I checked you don't sue a company either but yea
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All I can say is if Machine Paintball is not a American Based Company(and I would like some kind of proof it is)I want no part of it!!!!!!
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:50 PM #1707
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All I can say is if Machine Paintball is not a American Based Company(and I would like some kind of proof it is)I want no part of it!!!!!!
Whats with the hostility?
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:51 PM #1708
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All I can say is if Machine Paintball is not a American Based Company(and I would like some kind of proof it is)I want no part of it!!!!!!
Waaah xenophobia! If something isn't American, it must be ****!!!

Get over yourself. There are plenty of other companies that put out fine products overseas, Macdev for example. PE for another in the UK, just for paintball. Even the US military is now issued rifles from HK and FN from Germany and Belgium respectively. Just because something isn't "American" or "American-owned" doesn't mean it's ****. The only markers I've had that screwed up on me time and time again are BL guns and their temperamental regulators.

I think the Vapor is worth a shot, I haven't heard anything vastly negative for a change about a new company's product on here. I don't think we really want to go back to a business model where there are a few companies that put out a slightly improved product every single year for a thousand dollars and up. That anno looks amazing, and if it really shoots almost like a Luxe and has better efficiency, why not give these guys a chance?

Oh, and as Pbn Autotrader has pointed out, they are based in the US!

They are also in the southern states, so I figure that works out pretty well for you.
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All I can say is if Machine Paintball is not a American Based Company(and I would like some kind of proof it is)I want no part of it!!!!!!
good for you. new policy is being put in place: if you haven't shot or owned the marker, you can only ask questions.

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....but I'd like to see the platform itself subjected to the abuses of the paintball community for a while before I will actually buy it. ....

I played a weekend of speedball at LLP, (dirt field, a few rocks) and I was constantly diving into snake. It'll hold up physically. As for the company, I really don't care. Here's why: as a gun tech, I can fix just about any problem this marker will have. there's nothing that can break on this marker that can't be repaired or replaced easily with some common sense. that alone is worth 1650.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:56 PM #1710
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I do not have a problem with anything manufactured overseas ..I have a problem with doing business with overseas companies !!!!If you have a problem you have no legal recourse so if you buy a $1650.00 POS you are screwed and there is not a thing you can do about it!!!!So before I become a guniea pig for some New unproven $1650.00 Marker I want to know who I need to sue when it ****s up......
Guess you won't ever be buying a MacDev or Planet Eclipse marker/product...
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:56 PM #1711
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The fact that Shootnpoo runs the warranty & service center for the Vapor in southern California was good enough for me to jump on the Vapor instantly. He really knows his stuff & great customer service.
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:06 PM #1712
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is the gun worth the money, id say yes

did i personally like the gun, yes but the air puffing on my hand was annoying and a few other small things made me sell mine but their really topnotch guns, if you havent tried one you need too their CS is really topnotch, their not my personal cup of tea but id give this gun a easy 8-9/10 to some it may be a 10/10 but i am very very picky when it comes to guns. I wouldnt be surprised if i bought another one later this year.
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:11 PM #1713
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Lulu the monk...You are right I never will own a Mac-Dev or Eclipse..lol
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:26 PM #1714
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Lulu the monk...You are right I never will own a Mac-Dev or Eclipse..lol
Lol, even NASA has used MacDev. (Their regulators have been in space.)

Once I get a chance to see these in person, or unless I can score an incredible deal on one I'll have to wait. Does seem promising though.
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I do not have a problem with anything manufactured overseas ..I have a problem with doing business with overseas companies !!!!If you have a problem you have no legal recourse so if you buy a $1650.00 POS you are screwed and there is not a thing you can do about it!!!!So before I become a guniea pig for some New unproven $1650.00 Marker I want to know who I need to sue when it F*&Ks up......
Dumbest reply Ive ever seen on pbnation, youre one of the last remaining haters. Lonely, isnt it?

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Lulu the monk...You are right I never will own a Mac-Dev or Eclipse..lol
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:09 PM #1716
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Waaah xenophobia! If something isn't American, it must be ****!!!

Get over yourself. There are plenty of other companies that put out fine products overseas, Macdev for example. PE for another in the UK, just for paintball. Even the US military is now issued rifles from HK and FN from Germany and Belgium respectively. Just because something isn't "American" or "American-owned" doesn't mean it's ****. The only markers I've had that screwed up on me time and time again are BL guns and their temperamental regulators.

I think the Vapor is worth a shot, I haven't heard anything vastly negative for a change about a new company's product on here. I don't think we really want to go back to a business model where there are a few companies that put out a slightly improved product every single year for a thousand dollars and up. That anno looks amazing, and if it really shoots almost like a Luxe and has better efficiency, why not give these guys a chance?

Oh, and as Pbn Autotrader has pointed out, they are based in the US!

They are also in the southern states, so I figure that works out pretty well for you.
Then you my friend have no clue what you are doing with a BL marker. all mine work great

While I probably won't be buying a Vapor just cause I can't afford to at this point I would love to have the chance to hold and use one for a day before even deciding wether it's a good or bad marker. Why people just think something is good or bad because of a price, where it's made, or even the company that makes it is beyond me. Every company out there makes something good and bad.
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Dumbest reply Ive ever seen on pbnation, youre one of the last remaining haters. Lonely, isnt it?


Lets see the pics of your Tippmann.
Funny thing is in other threads he says he's the captain of master blasters.
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Funny thing is in other threads he says he's the captain of master blasters.
I doubt he's even shot the marker, or even seen it in person.

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Old 05-24-2012, 05:08 PM #1720
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I have seen the marker and I like the way it looks, but I have not shot it, I also have not seen one ever being played with or spoken to anyone who has actually purchased one or used one first hand... I am not hating on the Marker but i have concerns about the guys behind it!!!!!!!Do a little research on the people you do business with before you make a decision.....
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I have seen the marker and I like the way it looks, but I have not shot it, I also have not seen one ever being played with or spoken to anyone who has actually purchased one or used one first hand... I am not hating on the Marker but i have concerns about the guys behind it!!!!!!!
You are hating. Your hating on EVERYTHING having to do with the company and he marker, take a look at your post a page or two back.

You must have short term memory loss.
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Not the marker!!!!!!I can't and won't comment on the Marker because I have no experience with it YET...But I know a little more about the business practices of the guys behind it and on that I will just say BEWARE!!!!
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