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Old 05-23-2012, 08:04 AM #1618
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Regardless of where the markers are made, Machine has some of the absolute best customer service I've ever dealt with. I'm very glad to be supporting their products
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Old 05-23-2012, 08:59 AM #1619
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Regardless of where the markers are made, Machine has some of the absolute best customer service I've ever dealt with. I'm very glad to be supporting their products
Well that is reassuring, that's a big thing with me.



and yes vanguard is 100% uk
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Old 05-23-2012, 09:01 AM #1620
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Vanguard markers are machined and assembled in the UK. There was a video showing this somewhere which I'll try to track down and edit in.
Regardless of where theyre machined, they still suck. I wont go into the **** fit and finish, the pot metal feedneck clamp arm, and the poor performance if it isnt lubed exactly right(with vaseline if dow 55 doesnt work? Come on.). Vanguard Demons are absolutely the most unreliable, finicky, ******* markers Ive ever had the displeasure of owning. Their customer service sucks, and from what Ive heard the owner just called it quits so vanguard is looking to sell the company.

Suck it Vanguard.
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Old 05-23-2012, 09:33 AM #1621
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and the poor performance if it isnt lubed exactly right(with vaseline if dow 55 doesnt work? Come on.)

Suck it Vanguard.
Didn't Eclipse suggest Vaseline on the first years of Egos as well?
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:29 AM #1622
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Didn't Eclipse suggest Vaseline on the first years of Egos as well?
Yes. I used it on my regs with my 06
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:42 AM #1623
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Regardless of where theyre machined, they still suck. I wont go into the **** fit and finish, the pot metal feedneck clamp arm, and the poor performance if it isnt lubed exactly right(with vaseline if dow 55 doesnt work? Come on.). Vanguard Demons are absolutely the most unreliable, finicky, ******* markers Ive ever had the displeasure of owning. Their customer service sucks, and from what Ive heard the owner just called it quits so vanguard is looking to sell the company.

Suck it Vanguard.
LoL, thats funny right there!! Glad i got out 7 months ago.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:46 AM #1624
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LoL, thats funny right there!! Glad i got out 7 months ago.
How in the hell is that funny that Vanguard might be going under?
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:50 AM #1625
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How in the hell is that funny that Vanguard might be going under?
What does vanguard bring to the psp/nppl? Its their own fault for releasing a marker that obviously wasn't ready, the demon would be a great gun if they would of gotten rid of the qevs and kept the tolerances of the V1 can. The creed on the other hand was amazing mine always worked and shot great.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:55 AM #1626
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What does vanguard bring to the psp/nppl? Its their own fault for releasing a marker that obviously wasn't ready, the demon would be a great gun if they would of gotten rid of the qevs and kept the tolerances of the V1 can. The creed on the other hand was amazing mine always worked and shot great.
Ok so if a company doesn't bring anything to psp/nppl they deserve to go under?
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:35 AM #1627
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Bill, undetstand the back story not just what you want to hear.

Mismanaged, the owner dosnt care and they have a product not even they can seem to fix. These are areas that are set up fore sure failure to anyone.

Not funny they are closing funny that someone would post this up because hes upset with issues beyond his control.

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Old 05-23-2012, 12:22 PM #1628
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Let me add that mine had v2 parts.. machined so tight I couldnt figure out how to make the bolt not stick unless I magically happened to lube it right that day. Fact is I traded for a luxe, it came with a broken power button, busted light pipe, and paint caked everywhere, the first two because of shipping error, the last just because of laziness. Point is, Id much rather have the ****ed up Luxe than a demon anyday.

Im sorry to get off topic, continue with your vapor discussion. I firmly believe the Vapor (sight unseen) to be a quality marker, as Ive only heard good things on their first product released (as Machine) Thats how it should be. Vanguard effed up hard when they gave you the shaft poo, you were the only person keeping that company alive.
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:48 PM #1629
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Let me add that mine had v2 parts.. machined so tight I couldnt figure out how to make the bolt not stick unless I magically happened to lube it right that day. Fact is I traded for a luxe, it came with a broken power button, busted light pipe, and paint caked everywhere, the first two because of shipping error, the last just because of laziness. Point is, Id much rather have the ****ed up Luxe than a demon anyday.

Im sorry to get off topic, continue with your vapor discussion. I firmly believe the Vapor (sight unseen) to be a quality marker, as Ive only heard good things on their first product released (as Machine) Thats how it should be. Vanguard effed up hard when they gave you the shaft poo, you were the only person keeping that company alive.
Hell I'm happy poo deals in vapors and not vangaurd. I disliked my demon right out of the box, but love my vapor!
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its not a good thing if vanguard goes under. we need more selection and high quality product. yes things can get finicky, its paintball, its trial and error. give vanguard a few more years and i bet they can make a damn good gun.
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Their colors look so good!
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Ok so if a company doesn't bring anything to psp/nppl they deserve to go under?
no, but too the paintball world it would be a benefit if anything, they dont bring much to the table i would fully support them if their CS would actually nut up and fix the guns and replace the parts insted of giving their customers half *** fixes. I delt with shootnpoo several times and he treated me right, jason on the other hand well thats another thing.
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Thank you both. I plan on making my transition to Machine as easy as possible and still provide even better service and sales experiance for all our customers and future customers alike.

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Its Nasty Vapor time.
Custom Vapors will be hitting the streets shortly.
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Custom Vapors will be hitting the streets shortly.
thanks for the heads up. the white with pink/blue splash you posted on facebook nearly drained my phone battery with all the notifications i got.
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:52 PM #1638
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