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Old 11-04-2011, 10:25 PM #1
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Axe Lp or HP?

I haven't had much experience in the LP department..I've always used hp. Just wondering what the pros and cons of using lp and hp tanks. Thanks!
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:56 PM #2
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And I'm asking specifically if it will help for the Emp. Axe and what it will effect...
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:47 AM #3
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no difference in performance. i use HPA because the tank i bought was super cheap (was like $60 for a 68/45 CP with 3 years hydro).

they say HPA is more instant, and that LPA puts less strain on the internals and is more efficient. All bs to me.
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Old 11-23-2011, 06:16 PM #4
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I run my axe on a ninja slp reg and i have no issues at all
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Old 11-23-2011, 11:35 PM #5
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this is just what ive heard from a friend that played with BL markers: most medium and lowends... as well as a lot of high ends are ok with HP without any issue. however there are some markers that specifically require a LP reg so that the noid doesnt blow out, such as the BL victory

*(however that is just a general statement, not a guarantee that they will blow with a HP reg)
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Old 11-24-2011, 12:54 AM #6
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I've found that LP can be a little more consistent and dropoff occurs later than with HP. After switching from HP Markers (Tippmann etc) to LP Markers (Mini, Axe, BT TM Series) I switched all of my tanks over to LP and haven't had any issues at all.

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Old 11-24-2011, 01:50 PM #7
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this is just what ive heard from a friend that played with BL markers: most medium and lowends... as well as a lot of high ends are ok with HP without any issue. however there are some markers that specifically require a LP reg so that the noid doesnt blow out, such as the BL victory

*(however that is just a general statement, not a guarantee that they will blow with a HP reg)
Bob long victory's and g6r's also have internal oring's that can get blown out of place by hp
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Old 11-24-2011, 04:02 PM #8
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Really the only reason is to not let the regs spike and to not blow seals for hoselss BL's. The Medium 550~ is better for consistency while maintaining flow. obviously the closer the input is to op. the better but you'll get massive shoot down. Really BL G6r's, and Vics can run fine on just a Ninja reg set to 450 it just runs most optimally on the lowest to ensure seals aren't blown.

To answer your question, a medium output ninja reg or an adjustable reg from ninja set to 600 will run great. I get good groupings with the odd one here and there.
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Old 11-24-2011, 04:44 PM #9
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AXE should run between 350-500 psi if possible.

250-275 SLP is not recomended
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Old 11-24-2011, 05:48 PM #10
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AXE should run between 350-500 psi if possible.

250-275 SLP is not recomended
I run the v2 boss bolt with a lower dwell and my pressure at 150psi with my slp. Iv never had an issue

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Old 11-25-2011, 03:38 PM #11
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I run the v2 boss bolt with a lower dwell and my pressure at 150psi with my slp. Iv never had an issue
a stock axe is not designed to run on an SLP
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Note:for best performance results using an Axe , we recommend LP or Mid pressure systems,

Definitely correct. Axe's run great off of 500-550psi. We have a team (LSD out of Chicago) that we sponsor that's an Axe team and all of their setups are running great with this input.
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Old 11-26-2011, 09:34 AM #12
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I understand that. I cant remember for sure but I want to say I saw Simon or Ninja post on here some where that some axes run just fine on slp regs while others wont chrono correctly when using the slp. Lol im just saying it will work with out issues on some axes.

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Old 11-26-2011, 02:21 PM #13
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Their axes probably had stuff like an eigenbarrel or an aftermarket bolt kit to increase efficiency. I've never seen an Axe run stock off SLP.

That being said, Axes can and SHOULD run on LP.

LP output tank allows for smoother shooting and better consistency than an HP output tank. Also allows for a bit better efficiency in some cases, but for the most part, it reduces the amount of wear on the internals of the regulators.
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Old 11-26-2011, 02:27 PM #14
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Their axes probably had stuff like an eigenbarrel or an aftermarket bolt kit to increase efficiency. I've never seen an Axe run stock off SLP.

That being said, Axes can and SHOULD run on LP.

LP output tank allows for smoother shooting and better consistency than an HP output tank. Also allows for a bit better efficiency in some cases, but for the most part, it reduces the amount of wear on the internals of the regulators.
Ya my axe has a v2 boss bolt, but..... I just ran my buddys stock axe on my slp to see if it would work and it also worked just fine

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Old 11-26-2011, 07:24 PM #15
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Working and shooting fast without draw down is a different story.

SLP can keep up at slow ROF but did you go full speed and test it that way??
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If you aren't using the tank on any low-end blowbacks, go LP if you can. That way, you can shoot without drop off all the way down to ~400psi, as opposed to ~800 with HP systems. Can make a pretty big difference mid-game and get you a few more shots if you're using a smaller tank like a 45/45 or 50/45. An even bigger difference if you happen to be using a 3k tank, or your field doesn't fill to 4500.
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:00 PM #17
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Working and shooting fast without draw down is a different story.

SLP can keep up at slow ROF but did you go full speed and test it that way??
Yes sir, i did uncapped semi with my axe and over the chrono and on my redline it showed i was shooting a solid 18bps with out any shoot down. On my buddys axe i was shooting psp 12.5 without any issues. His gun was no where near as efficient as mine but still shot great. Ill test it out on my new axe I have coming in as well as my other teammates axe.

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If you aren't using the tank on any low-end blowbacks, go LP if you can. That way, you can shoot without drop off all the way down to ~400psi, as opposed to ~800 with HP systems. Can make a pretty big difference mid-game and get you a few more shots if you're using a smaller tank like a 45/45 or 50/45. An even bigger difference if you happen to be using a 3k tank, or your field doesn't fill to 4500.
I think your wrong buddy. The reg is set at a pressure regardless of the tank. In other words it dosent matter what tank i put into my gun, the guns reg will stop the presure at the set psi. Also the tank works the same, the reg on the tank cuts out at the set psi. So if an 800 psi tank is bellow the 800 point then it simply keeps the pin open and dosent cut out. So one is not better in the way you discribed.

As for the axe i think its so you dont blow seals in the reg then in the gun its self. But im not sure dont know too much abouth thies guns. I do know the angel need a lp reg or they wont work maby thiese are the same.
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There's been some debate. But I've even heard from some people that LP tank output is worse than Mid to High pressure for the Axe
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In my personal testing when I first got my TM-7 (essentially Mini internals) my HP tanks would cause drop off at some point around 800psi, whereas my LP tanks would go below 500psi before I got the same dropoff.

Could just be my tanks but it was enough for me to switch all my tanks (and friend's) over to LP and no-one's had any complaints. My wife's using one on her Axe and while she doesn't put as much paint through as I do, she's not had any issues.

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