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Old 11-03-2011, 04:29 AM #1
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demon questions, new owner

So I have a demon on the way, and have some questions.

What lube should be used? Dow 55, triflow, monkey poo, sleek?
How do they work in the cold? I live in the northeast.
Any issues I need to lookout for?

So far I've byn impressed with the reviews in the fourms but if anyone can elaborate on the demon would be awesome.
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:54 AM #2
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Eric from Vanguard has been using Dow55, but monkey poo and sleek would both be just fine. As for the cold weather, not sure on that one I got mine this summer and I live in MN so we shall see. As for the "issues", if you do some research there have been UPDATED parts release to fix some minor issues but that was for some of the early release guns. I had a weird leaking issue with my demon and I got a chance to talk to Eric (shootnpoo) from Vanguard at the DC NPPL event and he knew exactly what the issue was and fixed me right up. Haven't had an issue since then.
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:38 AM #4
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hey i little question? why use dow 55? it performence better than the dow33 in the demon??? sweel origns=???
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:41 AM #5
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The 33 seems to be a little thin.
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Old 11-04-2011, 03:19 AM #6
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I've got sl33k I will use. Ill post how that goes
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:57 AM #7
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hey i little question? why use dow 55? it performence better than the dow33 in the demon??? sweel origns=???
Yes it will swell the orings a little. This is what Eric from vanguard said he had been using lately. I've been using it and it seem to me that it's feels a little bit smoother...not saying it wasn't before. I got the update parts from Eric and found it weird that it was lubed in Dow55 (it had that distinct smell). I had a Victory and now a G6r so I have LOTS of Dow55 so win win for me. Either way, Dow33 or Dow55 both will do you just fine.
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:40 AM #8
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Any lube that you see fit to use will be fine. The Monkey poo that comes with the markers will work. It boiles down to preferance and what you see fit to use. I myself use Dow 55 due to our team marker running polished powercores and wanting the Orings to swell a tad bit. Useing a polished system lowers the friction within the drive train and will lower the internal presssure aswell. So Dow 55 is what works best for me having to maintain our full line of team markers along with the Avalanche markers the DOW 55 has proven to last the longest in the most extream conditions.
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Old 11-04-2011, 11:12 AM #9
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I live in Jersey and shot a case in 42 degrees no problem at all. The monkeypoo (comes with your demon and smells great!) works great but as Eric said if you have a polished core, dow55 works better. Same concept in my luxe as well.

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Old 11-04-2011, 01:07 PM #10
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Eric my demon came with a green vanguard lube!! what lube is that??? is 33 or 55??
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In a tube? Or in the marker
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Any lube should work fine. I always suggest that for spoolers you lube lite and lube often. Always wipe off the old stuff before you add new grease. If you use too much grease, you will actually cause bolt stick.

The best way to tell if you have too much is to look at all the holes in the drive core and at the back of the bolt guide(or whatever your gun may call it). If you see deposits of lube gathering in those areas, you may have too much lube in there. That build up will decrease air flow and in extreme cases even clog your noid.

I think there are some good vids up about how to lube properly and how much. They're worth a look at. Proper lubing will ensure smooth gun operation and long oring life. This equals many many hours of shooting fun
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:04 AM #14
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i have seen forums with people recommending lube and a drop of tri flow. is this a good idea? wheres the best place to get dow 55 ? thanks
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Old 11-06-2011, 03:47 PM #15
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:32 PM #16
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I got my demon today, also with that green lube. It's as thick and sticky as glue... Didn't shoot out of the box because the bolt wasn't cycling all the way. I guess it has to do with the lube.

Cleaned the drivetrain and relubed with monkey poo. Unfortunately haven't got any air here to test it yet.
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:07 AM #17
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I got my demon today, also with that green lube. It's as thick and sticky as glue... Didn't shoot out of the box because the bolt wasn't cycling all the way. I guess it has to do with the lube.

Cleaned the drivetrain and relubed with monkey poo. Unfortunately haven't got any air here to test it yet.
I found the same thing happened to me. The lube supplied in the box is really runny and thin I found and caused bolt stick for whatever reason. I wiped it all down and switched to actual monkey poo from oring monkey which was a lot smoother and thicker and I think it works fine now but I am still having random leaking issues in my marker. Not sure whether Dow 55 would seal everything better to prevent it?
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:26 AM #18
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Old 11-11-2011, 09:50 AM #19
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I switched from 33 to 55 and havent had any problems, where before i had the biggest issue with the ASA...oringmonkey has 55 in stock i believe and you can get larger tubes at some retailers..which way you order is your call
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Are people saying that the green lube is monkey poo? I just ask cause the monkey poo I have is yellow. But yea my demon came with the green stuff in the box but a white lube in the gun
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Old 11-11-2011, 02:37 PM #21
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The green stuff smells like hater sauce but mine is darker and a lot thicker. It's definately not monkey poo.

Monkey Poo is yellow and smells like bananas!

Edit: my gun is shooting fine right now. Hoping to go see the field on sunday so I can actually get to use it. But it's cycling and firing when I air it up now.
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