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View Poll Results: What divisions and options do you want to see for 2012
No Changes... Keep same as 2011 (D2/D3 and D4/D5) - no D3 in D4 50 43.86%
Keep same as 2011 (D2/D3 and D4/D5) - allow 1 D3 on a D4/D5 team 43 37.72%
No D2, just D3 and then D4/D5 13 11.40%
Other (please make sure you post your suggestion) 8 7.02%
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Old 11-08-2011, 08:13 PM #43
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Old 11-09-2011, 04:09 AM #44
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I would be fine with open or how it is now... but i do think to keep D2/3 strong you must enforce that the top 3-5 top ranked teams by the end of last season in d4/5 to move up. This will add depth to the d2/3 division and also open up the d4/5 for new up and coming teams to get a taste of success which is whats needed for players to stay interested in competing at tournaments.
This is a good idea, the teams in the top 5 should want to move up anyway, to get better and play more challenging teams DelawarePBguy
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I would be fine with open or how it is now... but i do think to keep D2/3 strong you must enforce that the top 3-5 top ranked teams by the end of last season in d4/5 to move up. This will add depth to the d2/3 division and also open up the d4/5 for new up and coming teams to get a taste of success which is whats needed for players to stay interested in competing at tournaments.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:16 PM #47
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I would be fine with open or how it is now... but i do think to keep D2/3 strong you must enforce that the top 3-5 top ranked teams by the end of last season in d4/5 to move up. This will add depth to the d2/3 division and also open up the d4/5 for new up and coming teams to get a taste of success which is whats needed for players to stay interested in competing at tournaments.
Actually can't per say make the team, but the players move up. Because in that sense then a team can just change their name to advoid moving up. Or a dispute would be they got all new players so then it wouldnt be fair to move up. So you saying the topped ranked teams, those players have to forced to be moved up? Would that be better?
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:34 PM #48
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Cindy brings up a good point. In PSP that works fairly well with the D1/Pro situation, however we must remember that the average lifespan for a regional team at this level is less than a season. Teams are constantly renaming/reforming/changing players/quitting. It would be almost impossible to enforce something like that in a fair way
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:06 AM #49
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Actually can't per say make the team, but the players move up. Because in that sense then a team can just change their name to advoid moving up. Or a dispute would be they got all new players so then it wouldnt be fair to move up. So you saying the topped ranked teams, those players have to forced to be moved up? Would that be better?
yeah that would most likely have the same effect because it is more likely that the teams who finished in the top 3-5 this year will stay together on the same team again next year due to their success. its not definite that they will stay together, but it is more likely than a team who didnt do as well throughout the year.
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yeah that would most likely have the same effect because it is more likely that the teams who finished in the top 3-5 this year will stay together on the same team again next year due to their success. its not definite that they will stay together, but it is more likely than a team who didnt do as well throughout the year.
Most likely but not always true. I know of a team already that placed high top and they are no longer together now.
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:30 AM #51
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Cindy is right, there's really no way to enforce making teams bump up. We as players need to push ourselves as well as our competitors to step it up!! Your never gonna get any respect playing D4/5 year after year regardless of how many wins you have. D4/5 should be a stepping stone but once you've played a season or more of GPL/MAPL you should want to step into the next division for competitions sake if no other. If teams played with this thinking the D2/3 division would def have more then 6-9 teams signing up.
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:05 AM #52
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If a team plays D4/D5 in all of the events and does well by the end the year all players on that team would be ranked D3 by appa ranking that what I think would cut out sandbagging
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If a team plays D4/D5 in all of the events and does well by the end the year all players on that team would be ranked D3 by appa ranking that what I think would cut out sandbagging
But I mean Ive seen some players and ever played with some players that are playing entire NPPL seasons in D2 and they are playing D5 GPL. Sandbagging has always been there.
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When u play Nppl event u r ranked look at Vegas team by each player name there is his ranking Mapl should look at this also it would stop it
And u know the teams we all do they r not there to move up and be the best in the sport they r in it for the money and fear stop them
If this sport is going to last at the local level we need more new teams the younger player r the future of paintball
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Old 11-12-2011, 02:44 PM #55
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Cindy I have a alternative incase teams argue new roster... If a top 5 ranked team enters the season with 4 or more rostered players from the previous season then that team should be moved up.. APPA keeps track of who was on the roster.
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Old 11-12-2011, 03:18 PM #56
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They have there ranking
But if they don't have the points to be ranked D3 them they r allowed to play D4 if u go by appa
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They have there ranking
But if they don't have the points to be ranked D3 them they r allowed to play D4 if u go by appa
Unfortantely if we use APPA, we really can not take un-appa event ranking into effect. So its either we use APPA and follow those rankings or we go on our own.
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Old 11-13-2011, 12:31 PM #58
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For the sake of attracting more teams I would like to see the allowance of (1) D3 player in the D4/5 division and (1) D1 player in the D2/D3 division. 1 player wouldn't make that big of a difference but I know quite a few teams (more so D4) who's core players are ranked D3 and resort to playing in other leagues because they allow them in the d4 division.
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I agree.. 1 D1 player in d2/3 or 1 D3 in d4/5 will not make any difference
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I would like to see the GPL/MAPL stop allowing D3 NPPL players on D4/5 teams.
From what I read in the rules a national ranking takes precedence over any local ranking or at least clarify/revise the rule book.
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Old 11-22-2011, 01:23 PM #61
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The fine line between d2/d3 and d4/d5 is all one of the same. The gpl allows this to help inforce and create some room for players to not have to make a whole division jump due to one or two players rankings. I think a rookie d4/d5 team should be allowed 1 d3 player for the sake of experience and also do to the close death of the d3 divison last season. The reason a d4 team can stack it's rosters with d4 players is because that division is open from all d4 players to all d5 players . D3 division should stay the same with a mix of d2 players due to better competition and also because d2/3 is not rookie but not yet the golden divisions such as d1 and pro , with that being said d2/3 shouldn't have any high rankings and if a team plans on playing that division all preparations should be geared toward playing d2 players due to the grind of the event and the will to want to win. I have played in many leagues with Appa and paintball I'd as well as Nepl and nppl times have changed through out the years and players concerns on rankings have always been a issue, gpl is a respectable series and is ran to make the players /teams/ sponsors and vendors all want to come back . I agree with keeping the same divisions and letting one d3 player on a d4 line .
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Old 11-29-2011, 06:36 PM #62
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We plan on playing several events 2012 season (3 man and 5 man)
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D6 & D5 (have to move up as points rise during year.)
D4-D3 if you want to allow a single D2 player?
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A D5/D6 division I think would be a great addition. This would be an excellent tool to get those new teams/players into the tournament scene.
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