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Old 10-25-2011, 07:50 PM #1
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Are there any high end mechanical markers?

Something that's reliable, relatively lightweight and compact. I've had my Tippy 98 as a backup since I started playing paintball, but now I want to get something else.
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Old 10-25-2011, 08:10 PM #2
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Sure are.

http://shocktechusa.com/sfl/index.htm

http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/in...&categoryID=79

And those are just what's available new. There's still plenty of very nice Cockers and Mags on the used market that can keep up with anything out there.
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:11 PM #3
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That Shocktech autococker looks pretty badass. Have you ever used one? What did you think of it?
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:13 PM #5
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Don't forget the Palmer Blazer...
http://palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index...luvrn5re498r86
Often described as the gun that autocockers wished they were. However not as good a platform if you're the type who wants to replace half the parts down the line or fiddle with fine tune adjustment. They're a gun you buy, leave alone, and if it gets sick you send it home for a tune up. Though they're quite reliable (if you don't fiddle with it), so you don't have to send them home very often.

You also have the ATS line of guns...
http://getrealpaintball.com/
Probably not what you're looking for, but I'm a fan and the company is local to me so I have to give them a mention. Built like a swiss watch. They just sing when they work (well, more of a Bark really, but you flip on that mechanical full auto and everyones head turns), but if something goes wrong you might need a magnifying glass and a tweezers. Lots a little fine parts. Great gun if you enjoy difficult puzzles.

I do believe you can still buy new Ice Epics...
http://www.icepaintball.com
Very small, very light, very compact, rather interesting boltless trapdoor design. You'll definitely turn a few heads, but being rather rare on the field if something goes wrong you'll be on your own. I'd call before ordering on-line, just in case.
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:15 AM #6
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That Shocktech autococker looks pretty badass. Have you ever used one? What did you think of it?
Not personally, but I do shoot a nice older Cocker a lot (DYE Reflex). A well-tuned Cocker is a gun you won't want to put down. They just have a great feel to them. I've had the opportunity to fondle an older SFL, and it was lighter and tighter than my Reflex.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:27 AM #7
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Not personally, but I do shoot a nice older Cocker a lot (DYE Reflex). A well-tuned Cocker is a gun you won't want to put down. They just have a great feel to them. I've had the opportunity to fondle an older SFL, and it was lighter and tighter than my Reflex.
Back in the day the sfl was one of the top of the line cockers and they had the price to show for it. If I'm not mistaken I think they were around 1700. I've shot the SFL and other shocktech cockers and they were always reliable and shot great, I preferred them over freeflows because the techs at bad boyz toyz are autococker GODS. I've seen the new ones and they are made just like before and you can get them for 1000 cheaper now brand new. In my opinion they are definitaly worth it.
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:15 AM #8
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Unfortunely Shocktech doesnt have any SFLs in stock, if your interested in one email them and they will place you on the waiting list alongside me.
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sure man. What do you think people used back before electros?? check this thing out called a PBX autorocker its about as highend as they get, very rare too. someone is actually selling one right now in the bst for like 2 grand http://armorypaintball.com/products/...252d-RARE.html
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Thanks for mentioning ATS, Fubarius. Never heard of them but now I'm real intrigued. Would be fun for those special occasions.

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sure man. What do you think people used back before electros?? check this thing out called a PBX autorocker its about as highend as they get, very rare too. someone is actually selling one right now in the bst for like 2 grand http://armorypaintball.com/products/...252d-RARE.html
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:51 PM #11
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sure man. What do you think people used back before electros?? check this thing out called a PBX autorocker its about as highend as they get, very rare too. someone is actually selling one right now in the bst for like 2 grand http://armorypaintball.com/products/...252d-RARE.html
That's an electrococker, not a mech.

I wish there were more new cockers being produced. The SFL isn't in stock and it will likely be a long time before Shocktech does another run, if ever.
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Old 11-02-2011, 05:54 PM #12
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On the subject of Automags, they can be on par with modern electros in terms of size and weight. If you Pneumag mod them, they will compete in the speed department as well, and remain field-legal. Of course if your field allows full-auto, they can be setup to shoot 25+bps without too much trouble.

I love my Pneumag! But I also consider mech cockers and their variants to be high-end as well.
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Old 11-14-2011, 12:40 PM #13
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That Shocktech autococker looks pretty badass. Have you ever used one? What did you think of it?

I own an 09 SFL ... I sold my dark sl74 ego and kept the cocker ... Nuff said !
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But if ur looking for a small simple gun , get an automag , there are tons of upgrades and you can pick them up relatively cheap , there also greAt guns ... Even tho by todays standards , only electros can be "high-end" .... Whats this world coming to
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Diablo Wraths and Smart Parts Ions (or anything in that family) can also be converted to use pneumatic triggers.
These conversions are fairly straightforward if you're mechanically-inclined.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:16 AM #16
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Old 11-15-2011, 01:52 PM #17
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By 'high-end', do you mean expensive?

If no, what features are you looking for?

High rate of fire? Gentle on balls? Efficient?
..Accurate?..

You need to defined these things first.
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IMo mags are just too heavy for their size. Sure they shoot great, but they feel more dense than an autococker. And that's saying alot.
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^^^My X-valved ULE Mag weighs about 2.3 pounds, ready to shoot. (barrel included, but no hopper or tank.) That's only a few ounces heavier than an Ego. It has a smaller profile than an Ego as well. Plus, it was even lighter before adding the pneumatic parts to make it a Pneumag - and it was still a quite capable marker.

I can see where you might think the old ones are heavy, with their stainless steel valves and bodies. But the ULE stuff is damn light...
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Old 11-24-2011, 02:31 AM #20
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I have to give props to the cocker as well. They shoot like nothing else out there, just have that feel to them that you just have to shoot to appreciate, and you can find them for peanuts these days.

I took mine out for the first time in a few years....people had no idea what it was. Never thought I'd see that day. "Is that a pump?" "It sure is quiet".
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