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Old 10-02-2011, 02:10 PM #85
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Old 10-02-2011, 02:53 PM #86
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these are not stako bottles saying that there are no problem with stako bottles plenty of people have come on this thread giving their opinion with out using the product.
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people have used this product or any very similar products you can not comment.
as for stako bottles all incidents were investigated and proven too be user error
as i have said earlier do you guys get air safety training,if not why not
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Europeans are so sensitive, holy crap
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Old 10-02-2011, 03:56 PM #88
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You can't read, obviously you don't travel with your tank, it has to be completely empty to get on a plane.
maybe he hasnt,

but me as well as all my team mates have traveled with ours tons of times, tank was completely empty, never had a problem....


shut the hell up if you dont know what you're talking about
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:05 PM #90
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maybe he hasnt,

but me as well as all my team mates have traveled with ours tons of times, tank was completely empty, never had a problem....


shut the hell up if you dont know what you're talking about


figured I'd tackle this one the american way.
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:55 PM #91
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I'm tired of this 3 page US vs. Europe dick measuring contest.

1.) Is the tank DOT certified and approved for use in the U.S. or not?
2.) What is the cost?
3.) When and where will it be available?
4.) Will it be available with a regulator or as the bottle only?
5.) What sizes will be available? Just 68ci or will there be a 45ci option as well?
6.) How does it compare in weight to Ninja, Crossfire and Guerrilla tanks?

When you decide to put away your rulers, feel free to answer some questions.
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Old 10-02-2011, 05:57 PM #94
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But still, American tanks get sold in the us with no euro certification.
But euro tanks dont get sold to the states?
The DOT requirements meet the PI requirements. The PI requirements do not meet the DOT requirements.
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Old 10-02-2011, 08:29 PM #95
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I'm tired of this 3 page US vs. Europe dick measuring contest.

1.) Is the tank DOT certified and approved for use in the U.S. or not?
2.) What is the cost?
3.) When and where will it be available?
4.) Will it be available with a regulator or as the bottle only?
5.) What sizes will be available? Just 68ci or will there be a 45ci option as well?
6.) How does it compare in weight to Ninja, Crossfire and Guerrilla tanks?

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It either passes DOT or NOT. You don't ***** about your reg(which is really the weak link in your air system) whether or not it's safe-You trust the DOT on them and assume it's safe. The SAFE tanks either pass or they will not. AND, oh by the way, Do you not have some personal responsibility in buying tested gear and then making sure that after you use it, you make sure that it's in good working order? Of course you do. Don't buy janky crap, Buy gear that works and is safety rated. But, you don't need to buy something you don't want to(at least for now-National Healthcare). So, don't buy it. Shave .05 oz off your new gun. Buy lighter pants. Hell-I don't give a damn. Buy what you like. BUT don't you dare tell me what to buy. You over step your bounds if you tell me what to buy. America still has a free market system for now. IF it passed DOT, then I'm buying.
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Yea stop telling this dude what to buy
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:27 PM #97
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you hate guerilla but you're using their crappy reg? hmm... and what's wrong with ninja? they make fantastic products and I haven't met anybody that has had a problem with them.
I don't like the fact that they didn't (I don't know if they still don't) use loctite in their regs for tanks. I have had my old ga tank almost lose the reg under pressure more than a few times, I knew what to do when it happened so it never came to releasing air but I have seen other peoples tanks do it too. Very bad idea imo. Any way, these look nice if they get DOT then I might look into them although I love my ninja 90/45
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:08 PM #99
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I'm tired of this 3 page US vs. Europe dick measuring contest.

1.) Is the tank DOT certified and approved for use in the U.S. or not?
2.) What is the cost?
3.) When and where will it be available?
4.) Will it be available with a regulator or as the bottle only?
5.) What sizes will be available? Just 68ci or will there be a 45ci option as well?
6.) How does it compare in weight to Ninja, Crossfire and Guerrilla tanks?

When you decide to put away your rulers, feel free to answer some questions.
This.

Also, in regards to hydro testing, you said that the tank life is 15 years and that it only has to be rehydroed twice. However, I believe hydro tests on paintball tanks only last 3 years. Are these tanks different for some reason or do European hydrotests last for 5 years? Also, it looks like that life of these tanks is the same as american tanks.

Also, is there a website for this company that has a list of events they will be at? I go to Europe usually once a year so I can see if there will be any events that I can see these and make an evaluation.
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acceleration ,my english grammer may not be the best.
but i have more engineering qualifications than you have ,common sense.
this thread is about a new product not about grammer and if thats the best you can come up with.go find an hole and jump in
acel on side not i have done r@d work for aston martin,ferrari ,rolls royce etc etc so because my grammer is not right you assume i`m thick
think again
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:29 PM #101
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This.

Also, in regards to hydro testing, you said that the tank life is 15 years and that it only has to be rehydroed twice. However, I believe hydro tests on paintball tanks only last 3 years. Are these tanks different for some reason or do European hydrotests last for 5 years? Also, it looks like that life of these tanks is the same as american tanks.

Also, is there a website for this company that has a list of events they will be at? I go to Europe usually once a year so I can see if there will be any events that I can see these and make an evaluation.
Carbon fiber tanks only require hydro every 5 years. The 3000psi tanks only have 3 year ones.
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:56 PM #102
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To the people pointing out the spelling/grammar errors

It has been said that English is not their first language and they're trying the best they can to respond to posts. You guys just seem stupid and ignorant when this keeps being brought up. PLEASE GROW UP, the whole world doesn't speak English -_-

As for the product, honestly I wouldn't use it until it was DOT certified but that's just me. I'm fine with my Ninja/CP tanks since I do have to take them apart for when I travel to events and they're not even that heavy.

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Carbon fiber tanks only require hydro every 5 years. The 3000psi tanks only have 3 year ones.
That doesn't make any sense. The pressure the tank holds does not affect how long the hydro test lasts.
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That doesn't make any sense. The pressure the tank holds does not affect how long the hydro test lasts.
i think he meant the aluminum bottles or "steelies"
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i think he meant the aluminum bottles or "steelies"
I think your right, but I have a PE 68/3000 and the hydro is only a 3 yr if, I remember correctly, 4500psi bottles manufactured after a certain year became 5 yr bottles all others were still 3 yr
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