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Old 09-21-2011, 10:09 PM #1
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G6R asa not bleeding

I've searched numerous threads and here's what I've found.

1) It's an inconsistent thing. Some G6R's asa will bleed, some won't. When they do, it's very on/off.
2) Solution options include: getting updated asa plunger, wiping down plunger free of grease, or twist the knob back in a little after it's all the way out. The latter option tends to cut the oring though.

Are there any other solutions I'm overlooking?
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:12 PM #2
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Use dow 33 or some other grease on that oring (and that oring ONLY) that won't swell it is the only other thing I can think of.
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:25 PM #3
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Use dow 33 or some other grease on that oring (and that oring ONLY) that won't swell it is the only other thing I can think of.
Tried that and it didn't help either
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Old 09-22-2011, 04:22 AM #4
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Some asa s are just screwed,even with all the right stuff,grease and settings it will eat up o-rings.in that case you ll have to call blast,sent in the whole asa and wait.
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:44 AM #5
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Some asa s are just screwed,even with all the right stuff,grease and settings it will eat up o-rings.in that case you ll have to call blast,sent in the whole asa and wait.
That's what I'm trying to avoid lol.
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Old 09-22-2011, 10:16 AM #6
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It sucks, but it's probably your best solution.
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:36 AM #7
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It sucks, but it's probably your best solution.
I really hope the new updated plunger fixes it then . Otherwise I'll have to send it in and get charged. Thing is I bought it used so no box or anything and idk how the warranty is.
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Old 09-24-2011, 10:28 AM #8
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Got the new plunger in and it bleeds!
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With my SLP regulator, no problems. Gasses up and bleeds off perfectly, every time.
With my Crossfire LP regulator, it takes a VERY long time for it to gas up (almost completely screwed in), and it will only SLOWLY bleed out after the knob is unscrewed completely.
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With my SLP regulator, no problems. Gasses up and bleeds off perfectly, every time.
With my Crossfire LP regulator, it takes a VERY long time for it to gas up (almost completely screwed in), and it will only SLOWLY bleed out after the knob is unscrewed completely.
I just emptied my tank and took the shims out of my ninja regulator so I'll be running LP at about 450psi. Hopefully this helps as well, but it seemed to work fine with my new updated plunger!
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With my SLP regulator, no problems. Gasses up and bleeds off perfectly, every time.
With my Crossfire LP regulator, it takes a VERY long time for it to gas up (almost completely screwed in), and it will only SLOWLY bleed out after the knob is unscrewed completely.
Ditto for me too.

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I just emptied my tank and took the shims out of my ninja regulator so I'll be running LP at about 450psi. Hopefully this helps as well, but it seemed to work fine with my new updated plunger!
The manual recommends using LP on a G6r, so you should have already taken the shims out! Try taking all the shims out to see if you can get it below 450.
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Old 09-24-2011, 01:52 PM #12
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Ditto for me too.

The manual recommends using LP on a G6r, so you should have already taken the shims out! Try taking all the shims out to see if you can get it below 450.
Well I was previously running LP at about 500 psi on my Ninja reg for my Luxe and DM11. I just emptied my tank now so I could remove the last shim and be at ~450psi. Hopefully this works!
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With my Crossfire LP regulator, it takes a VERY long time for it to gas up (almost completely screwed in), and it will only SLOWLY bleed out after the knob is unscrewed completely.
I'm using LP crossfire as well with the new asa pin and I have the same problem, along with it shredding the o-ring... hhhmmm..
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Old 09-24-2011, 10:13 PM #14
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I'm using LP crossfire as well with the new asa pin and I have the same problem, along with it shredding the o-ring... hhhmmm..
Did you try taking out the smaller silver screw in the asa to stop the shredding?
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:51 PM #15
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what? you mean the one visible from the outside, on the bottom? never heard of this... what's this suppose to do?
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what? you mean the one visible from the outside, on the bottom? never heard of this... what's this suppose to do?
The purpose of that screw is solely to keep users from unscrewing the asa knob too far out and losing it. However it still requires numerous revolutions of the screw to actually remove it past the stopping point of that screw.

However, the screw actually tends to bite into the plunger oring which causes it to break. So take the screw out and you shouldn't have many issues with it being cut. Just stop turning the knob once it bleeds and you should be fine!
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Old 09-26-2011, 01:29 PM #17
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Just to clarify for everyone as well, I talked to Curtis at leftcoastpaintball.com and he sent me the new updated pin free of charge with free shipping in the US! My asa bleeds great now and no issues yet! Shout out to him and his work.
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Obviously the bleeding and oring cutting issues are somewhat related since they are both involve the ASA pin, but I think the cutting issues are a problem with the ASA itself. Maybe a sharp edge internally that catches the oring. In other words, if your old style pin isn't bleeding, there's a good chance the new pin will work. If you are cutting pin orings, you'll probably cut them using either pin.
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Obviously the bleeding and oring cutting issues are somewhat related since they are both involve the ASA pin, but I think the cutting issues are a problem with the ASA itself. Maybe a sharp edge internally that catches the oring. In other words, if your old style pin isn't bleeding, there's a good chance the new pin will work. If you are cutting pin orings, you'll probably cut them using either pin.
Let's see what happens with my new pin for a bit and I'll come back and confirm that. I think it involves turning the asa pin in when the asa doesn't bleed therefore it's twisting against the pressure and causes it to knick somehow.
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Well, I have a new G6R with the new asa pin.. and it's shredding o-rings.. I'm just goin to try and be more careful when turning it on/off.
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Well, I have a new G6R with the new asa pin.. and it's shredding o-rings.. I'm just goin to try and be more careful when turning it on/off.
Same here.
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