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Old 04-13-2012, 07:06 AM #631
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Z2 is causing breaks in multiple guns. Take it off and use a cheap old dirty torque and they shoot ropes no breaks. It's together right....clean (brand new!)...fresh batteries...etc. calibration seems to do nothing and empire isnt releasing info on what that does anyways...wondering now if doing that when I got it is what caused all of this. I know I'm not alone but this loader is feeding way too strong. There is no magical piece of plastic not ln right etc...pretty much have narrowed it down. Why is my $180 investment making my gun Suckage?!?!?
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:52 AM #632
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My gun has been shooting ropes with a vlocity and all of the sudden when I put the Z2 on the gun, I'm having breakage.

But it's probably my eye pipe since it's cracked.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:01 AM #633
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Another theory I have is the Z2 doesn't play well with poppits. Spool guns are way easier on paint and I currently have my Z2 loaned out to a spool user to see his luck with it.

Eye pipe is cracked? The loader has no eyes it feeds off sound etc. As long as there isn't any Sharp edges etc it should be fine. If there was plastic sticking out Sharp etc, then there would be way more paint being shredded. Just me though.

I read lifting the hopper out of the feedneck a little helps or fixes something so I may try this when I get it back.
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:17 PM #634
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:24 PM #635
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I use a Z2 on my G6R no issues what so ever, the only time I have had paint in my loader was when I put a bad pod in it. Dont know whats causing your guys issue.
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:31 PM #636
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Same here. I have used it on multiple guns and so have my teammates all with 0 issues.
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Old 04-13-2012, 01:57 PM #637
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Another theory I have is the Z2 doesn't play well with poppits. Spool guns are way easier on paint and I currently have my Z2 loaned out to a spool user to see his luck with it.
You do realize the two Kee teams who use the z2 shoot poppits (axe)? Not to mention Top gun and other divisional teams. Also Greenspan at least consistently shoots an Ego11 with a z2, other Dynasty players do at times, at the pro level. No idea where you would come up with that connection.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:29 PM #638
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Does anyone else with a Z2 have theirs spin real fast and then slow down when turned on?

Mine only has one speed when I turn it on.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:47 PM #639
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You do realize the two Kee teams who use the z2 shoot poppits (axe)? Not to mention Top gun and other divisional teams. Also Greenspan at least consistently shoots an Ego11 with a z2, other Dynasty players do at times, at the pro level. No idea where you would come up with that connection.
The AXE is a spool, not a poppit....


( this is a invert mini, same thing though )
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:51 PM #640
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And the connection is simple logic. Spool guns are way easier on paint. Most "teams" with that loader shoot axes.
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:34 PM #641
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Z2 is causing breaks in multiple guns. Take it off and use a cheap old dirty torque and they shoot ropes no breaks. It's together right....clean (brand new!)...fresh batteries...etc. calibration seems to do nothing and empire isnt releasing info on what that does anyways...wondering now if doing that when I got it is what caused all of this. I know I'm not alone but this loader is feeding way too strong. There is no magical piece of plastic not ln right etc...pretty much have narrowed it down. Why is my $180 investment making my gun Suckage?!?!?
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:38 PM #642
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The AXE is a spool, not a poppit....
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And the connection is simple logic. Spool guns are way easier on paint. Most "teams" with that loader shoot axes.
I am sure the problem you are having with the Z2 is a legit problem and I hope you get it sorted out.

That said, however, you assuming the Z2 only works with spool valve markers is pretty far out there. I mentioned XSV and Infamous who shoot Axes, which technically is a poppet, but you want to argue. So, how about LA Critical? They shoot G6Rs and use Empire Z2s in the NPPL Pro division.

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The AXE is a spool, not a poppit....


( this is a invert mini, same thing though )


that gold part there..... thats the poppet.
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:47 PM #644
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Cool story bro's

I wasn't saying it wouldn't work period...just possibly adding to the problem. Please only post if you have a similar issue or advice, don't waste the bandwidth with b.s.

Axe mini etc is not a stack tube set up, that's what I ment by poppit. They are harder on paint than a single tube design like luxe axe w.e.

Point is, I'm not alone here so that's why iam reaching out for input and or possible fix's
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I wasn't saying it wouldn't work period...just possibly adding to the problem. Please only post if you have a similar issue or advice, don't waste the bandwidth with b.s.

Axe mini etc is not a stack tube set up, that's what I ment by poppit. They are harder on paint than a single tube design like luxe axe w.e.

Point is, I'm not alone here so that's why iam reaching out for input and or possible fix's
actually you were pretty certain the axe was a spool now your trying to cover up you being wrong.
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:24 PM #646
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I wasn't saying it wouldn't work period...just possibly adding to the problem. Please only post if you have a similar issue or advice, don't waste the bandwidth with b.s.

Axe mini etc is not a stack tube set up, that's what I ment by poppit. They are harder on paint than a single tube design like luxe axe w.e.

Point is, I'm not alone here so that's why iam reaching out for input and or possible fix's
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Another theory I have is the Z2 doesn't play well with poppits.
The Axe (an inline poppet marker) and the Z2 were designed to work together. Simon has said that he likes it when his "children" stay together.

What you say makes absolutely zero sense. Your "theory" is wrong.
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:24 PM #649
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I stand corrected, and could care less. The less i know about that marker the better...Fact is, none of this has anything to do with whats up with this hopper, and that is the topic here. I dont think you guys understand the frustration in reading how people love a product, and it just doesn't work for you and your friends etc. Sorry if in that i offended people with my misinformation and zero sense "theories"
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Eye pipe is cracked? The loader has no eyes it feeds off sound etc. As long as there isn't any Sharp edges etc it should be fine. If there was plastic sticking out Sharp etc, then there would be way more paint being shredded. Just me though..
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