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Old 12-09-2012, 08:05 PM #1135
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= more delays, by the time this bolt comes out it'll be worth more than the out of production gun is worth...LOL
Delays? O.o We're asking how much the shipping charges will be, lol.

Do you get off on this kind of thing? You ought to see if they make a fleshlight for that.
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:20 PM #1136
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Haha if you're able to get as much publicity as Techt PB then you'd easily out sell them if they're as good as they sound (i don't doubt you guys at all)
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:20 PM #1137
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Delays? O.o We're asking how much the shipping charges will be, lol.

Do you get off on this kind of thing? You ought to see if they make a fleshlight for that.
Any thought of maybe doing a G5 version as well for further savings?
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:23 PM #1138
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Any thought of maybe doing a G5 version as well for further savings?
Already in the works.

Savings won't really come on the prototyping end so we have a decent amount of time till we get everything sorted out and sent off for production all at once.
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Already in the works.

Savings won't really come on the prototyping end so we have a decent amount of time till we get everything sorted out and sent off for production all at once.
Looking forward to it. My G5 will be waiting.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:01 PM #1140
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Well we have some other stuff that is ahead of the G5 engine.. we need to get the G3/G4 stuff moving along. We're also working on some more runs of the closed bolt ion and mech ion kits in order to help finance everything.

I'm not saying that the G5 isn't going to happen because it is being looked at right now, but we simply have other stuff first in our queue.
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I'm not saying that the G5 isn't going to happen because it is being looked at right now, but we simply have other stuff first in our queue.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:36 PM #1142
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I'm not saying that the G5 isn't going to happen because it is being looked at right now, but we simply have other stuff first in our queue.

I think at this point the G5 should take lead over the ion. ion is fadding vs the G5 that is new, exciting and growing rapidly. Also nothing is out for the G5 yet so why not be the first?
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I think at this point the G5 should take lead over the ion. ion is fadding vs the G5 that is new, exciting and growing rapidly. Also nothing is out for the G5 yet so why not be the first?
they are going to use the profit from the ion kits to fund the g5 prototype.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:41 PM #1144
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they are going to use the profit from the ion kits to fund the g5 prototype.
Thanks, I read that too.
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Thanks, I read that too.
ok?? so why would they drop there completed ion project to make a g5 prototype? they still need to find a way to fund it.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:50 PM #1146
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they are going to use the profit from the ion kits to fund the g5 prototype.
Dot.

The closed bolt kits and mech kits are done and have been done. we just need to order more parts and sell as needed.


G5.. I am not sure if you realize how much money it costs to have a run made so that its actually affordable for everyone involved, including the consumer.

We're estimating to spend $XX,XXX by the time we're done with the first run.
Hell, I could have paid off my new car three times with that. :d
(and if you're really counting, it's a 2012 honda accord coupe that I drive like a Ferrari..)

We can't simply ask people to throw money at us for a pre-order or for store orders to fund it 100%. We have a fair amount of money right now, but it's not going to be enough to fund it 100% ourselves. With that being said, all of our profits get funneled right back in (minus a pizza or paneras here and there.. at least in my case XD). If you look at the stuff in my ebay store, I tend to buy stuff in bulk and resell. I make money yeah, but I have excellent prices that are very competitive. The whole point, even before this project at hand, was to provide great products at prices everyone can afford. Bolt engines cost more all around, and it sucks. We are really hoping that by having both runs (G3/G4 and possibly G5 if we play our cards right), it will allow us to lower the retail prices enough to help beat out others, sure, but also be able to get them into the hands of more ballers.

I know how much paintball is. So does Jonathan.

I started my ion hoarding and BSTing because of it. Believe me.. ****'s expensive. lol.

So, going back to the original point: the other projects are stepping stones. Every little bit here and there helps because in our case, we can exponentially increase the profits returned from a small sale.

I started my business with $20 when I was 8 and have grown it since there and we do not plan on stopping.

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Old 12-12-2012, 11:22 AM #1147
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Ok, this went way to far. We are all educated people here and under stand the cost of things. I was just making the point that the G5 has more potential being new marker thats bound to be very popular.
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I think at this point the G5 should take lead over the ion. ion is fadding vs the G5 that is new, exciting and growing rapidly. Also nothing is out for the G5 yet so why not be the first?


i bet they have made more money off their ion kits than they will off anything they release for the DP crowed.
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Ok, this went way to far. We are all educated people here and under stand the cost of things. I was just making the point that the G5 has more potential being new marker thats bound to be very popular.
Sorry.. Didn't try to make it an attack or anything. You are correct. It looks like it will take off and sell a fair number of markers. But yeah, we're working on it!

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i bet they have made more money off their ion kits than they will off anything they release for the DP crowed.
Ehhh.. I don't know about that. We've sold just about 100 mech kits and I am not sure how many of the closed bolt kids Jonathan has sold.

We are planning on an initial run of several thousand units for the DP markers.
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I was looking at the closed bolt Ion thread a while back and thought it wasn't 100%. Has that been resolved? Is there any chance of a GOG mech kit?
Can't wait to see the G4 bolt and the future G5 version.
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I was looking at the closed bolt Ion thread a while back and thought it wasn't 100%. Has that been resolved? Is there any chance of a GOG mech kit?
Uhhhh. Currently and as far as I know they're working fine.. been selling them for a while now.

Honestly, I bought a new enemy since I'm a dealer and I hate the trigger pull.
It's too light and doesn't have a crisp mech feel IMO.

In regards to an actual kit, that would involve making brackets. I haven't checked the specs on the frames personally, but I think Jonathan has and does have prints for it, but we haven't really explored that option fully.

I actually need to place an order for mech kit parts..
:o valves are expensive _-_'
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The closed bolt kits are continually being refined - but work well and have been available for a while. Just took way longer than expected between the first run that I did myself in 2011 to the manufactured run that came in a couple of months ago.

I have drawings for the Vibe and Envy brackets - but haven't ever handled an Extcy. I have a bunch of Vibe/Envy brackets just needing some finishing touches actually. Need to finish those...
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