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Old 11-28-2012, 06:19 PM #1051
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Deathwish, is the g5 bolt the same demension wise as a g4 stock bolt? e.g. could the g5 bolt be used in the g4?
No, I am fairly certain that there are dimensions that are longer.

It may work to our advantage as it allows us some more space to "play"
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:48 PM #1052
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As soon as we get some prototypes produced, we'll be probably be looking at 1 month or so after that to begin getting quotes for a production run. If there are any issues with the prototype's performance it may take longer so that we can correct them.

I did speak with a shop that is local with me today and the lady said she would email me the quote but as of yet, she hasnt

Due to a lot of shops failing to followup with us, we have posted up a global RFQ and expect to award the prototype production within the next two weeks or so.

Price wise, we're not 100% on it yet, although I can tell you that it will not be over $90 and that we plan on having it priced compete with existing bolt options. A lot of this depends on how many people we have interested and if we can get some stores to place initial orders. If we can get the stores on board, we may even be able to undercut the competition significantly.

As to working as a drop in to the G5, I can say with 99% certainty that we will need to tweak some dimensions since they are not the same.
can't wait I'm most certainly going to be placing an order when they're available for purchase.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:26 PM #1053
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No, I am fairly certain that there are dimensions that are longer.

It may work to our advantage as it allows us some more space to "play"
Huh. This guy says they used a G4 TechT engine in the G5.
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We were able to run a TechT G4 L7 Bolt in the G5 no problems.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:29 PM #1054
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Huh. This guy says they used a G4 TechT engine in the G5.
o>o

We will see I guess. Better for us? Lol.
I distinctly remember some differences...
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:33 PM #1055
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We will see I guess. Better for us? Lol.
I distinctly remember some differences...
Phant0m0 is sponsored by and lives close to DP. He may be able to give you the scoops
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:33 PM #1056
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Where did you guys find the dimensions or any information that lead you to tell whether there is a difference or not??
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:07 PM #1057
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Where did you guys find the dimensions or any information that lead you to tell whether there is a difference or not??
I had it in my hands, lol.

Hm.

Got another quote from a shop back.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:10 PM #1058
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I had it in my hands, lol.

Hm.

Got another quote from a shop back.
Yay! It's coming along.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:45 PM #1059
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Just babbling mindlessly here...

It would seem that DP has done what few other companies are willing to do. Produce a gun that comes in at a cut rate price, but with high end features. It makes you wonder what a real high end gun really costs to make and how much is just hype. I'm not saying that significant development didn't go into The G6r or Ego or Geo or whatever, but does that account for the significant price difference? I have to admit that I like having a case that comes with the gun. I would be willing to pay another $30 for a case and 2 piece barrel, but does that case or barrel make up for the significant price difference? I'm thinking that some of high end guns cost is just hype and some of it is legit.

Then again maybe I'm just a babbling idiot. LOL! You just gotta love haters!

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Good news it sounds like. Progress is always a good thing. I look forward to seeing you guys making a killing for your efforts. I would LOVE to see you compete with Techt and produce a better product. Keep up the good work.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:55 PM #1060
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I don't know why people think price is determined by cost. Price is determined by demand.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:57 PM #1061
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I actually got to thinking the same thing when the Proton was released. Would be interesting to see the difference in manufacturing costs and stuff between the markers. I think you're starting to see these entry level markers to help get people into the sport. It's intimidating to think about trying out the sport and seeing most guns are $500 or more. My parents couldn't afford anything like that when I was a kid. Now days I could save and swing it but there are others things I have to get with a family and all

In short: I'm liking these lower cost markers with big boy features on them
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:15 PM #1062
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Just babbling mindlessly here...



Then again maybe I'm just a babbling idiot. LOL! You just gotta love haters!
no not an idiot. there are plenty of things that DP guns have been lacking in the past and still are that most of the high end guns have had. even the revi priced at $850 is lacking a bunch of things that $1000 guns have.


anyways, i sure hope we can run this bolt in the g5. I really want one. $30 more than a g4 and it has a killer trigger, no hoses and light weight. worth the $30.
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:25 PM #1063
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Efficiency is a great focus to have!

Others things I would like to see in a bolt are, able to shoot very brittle paint, and tool less removal.

y0da900 And Deathwish_DW I would like to thank you guys for all your efforts in everything you do for the paintball community! You two are awesome to have around!
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:27 PM #1064
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Efficiency is a great focus to have!

Others things I would like to see in a bolt are, able to shoot very brittle paint, and tool less removal.

y0da900 And Deathwish_DW I would like to thank you guys for all your efforts in everything you do for the paintball community! You two are awesome to have around!
Agreed.
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:47 PM #1065
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:52 PM #1066
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One of the shops didn't want to quote us on larger production numbers after giving us the quote for a small run. Basically said that we wouldn't be able to consider them then since we need to have comparable quotes in order to actually consider all of our options in an educated manner. :o
He said he'd try to get us the quote.. so it looks like we're being taken seriously at least.

Annnnd found out some more pricing that was on a run of 100pcs from the first revision we had.. looks like we may be able to chip a bit more off of our "highest" price tag..
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:59 AM #1067
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When are your bolts gonna be available??
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:51 PM #1068
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I can't really answer that.


But.. I can tell you that we're considering the start of orders/pre-orders/store-orders verrrrryyyy sooon. :d Need to come up with some $XX,XXX.
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:19 PM #1070
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would kind of like to know what we are buying first
Working on it. I've sent out 20+ emails in the last ten minutes. O.o
The shops who are lagging are going to be disregarded.
Those with acceptable quotes will be discussed and we should figure out what we're doing in terms of testing within the next week and a half.


From before, on our rough, non anno'd, partially hand made engine, we know the following:
More consistent then Tech T/Stock @ same settings.
FPS On Par with Tech T @ same Settings.
Much tighter tolerances than both Tech T and Stock. (even though it wasn't fully made on a CNC. Jonathan is a beast O.o)

This iteration corrects the cycling issues we saw and improves over the original design..

Also going to see if we can drop some teaser pics now that we have a handle on some of the legalese.
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_-_ 30 more minutes for quote per phone call.

*so damn anxious*

Edit: Nothing yet on the quote, but we got the OK from Carter on MCB for a thread in the coming days..
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