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Old 01-26-2004, 07:00 AM #43
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first of all that is not Richard.

and second of all I do know whats going on Pony5
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Old 01-26-2004, 01:40 PM #44
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Pony/Haisam is really sick.
So, Bush is not Bush, and he is racist according to Pony/Haisam?
Bush is Richard, haha...
Let me tell you, Pony/Haisam, I have a ZEUS, and I love this gun,
Armotech.us has great service, I trust them, not like your Armotech LLC / Paintballarmory!!!
You'd better get out of this business.
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Old 01-26-2004, 01:42 PM #45
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This one is so good that everyboday should see it :
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...hreadid=363292
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Old 01-26-2004, 02:51 PM #46
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hp or dell or whoever you make no sense at all. what does bush have to do with you being a racist. do you think you are the prsident or something.
LMAO
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Old 01-26-2004, 06:25 PM #47
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Sick people's logic is damaged too...
poor guy....
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Old 02-04-2004, 12:35 PM #48
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WarDan and anyone else...

Armotech.com WAS the U.S. Dealer for Armotech.Net. There has been a fall out and there is a lawsuit pending concerning the sale of markers that are not official Armotech models. Armotech.com now sells the SIM-4, which is solely their gun. Whether it is made from left over parts or not, I can't say. They are also introducing a new line of markers. They did change the symbol, but are still calling themselves Armotech.com. Until the lawsuit is resolved, they will continue to do so.

Armotech.us and .net are offering a limited LIFETIME warranty on all products.

No more name calling, just pure hard facts. Do some research and find out for yourself. Your SIM-4 may be a great gun. I honestly would not know.

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Dude if you don't believe that .com are the fakes we have proof that they are lying about stuff, go to my thread that I posted today, and follow the link, then read at least the first three pages of that thread if not more ( the first three contain the majority of the proof)
Or just follow this link and scroll down to rougedawg's overlap of the pics, it is the third page of the thread my other link would bring you to http://www.armotech.us/forum/showthr...pagenumb er=3
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Old 02-22-2004, 01:15 AM #50
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Man you just one of there talkin heads...
At least .COM is coming out with some new stuff, .US seems like there always just releasing the same old stuff with a different look. That stock they have is the DUMBEST lookin thing. And if they always have tons of inventory then why is the "average" wait time 10-14 days? After they have your money?
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Old 03-18-2004, 04:21 PM #51
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dewd guys stop pissing over which is the real armotech, like condition red said, the lawsuit is pending, so wait, and the answer will come forth.
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Old 03-19-2004, 11:36 AM #52
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Whether or not the outcome of the lawsuit benefits one company or the other here is our opinion of the current distributors situation in the eyes of one dealer.
We have dealt with both companies - and while both markers are sturdy, as stack bolt systems go one thing cannot be discounted from the equation - CUSTOMER SERVICE. As far as Armotech.com goes, dealers can make our orders online, and if the online site does not have the item in, Armotech.com will NOT allow us to order the item, this way we are able to inform the customer that once the item can be ordered, then it will without any one laying out an expense. Armotech.us is different - for instance - February 18, 2004 my company made an order for a couple of markers, E-Frame, and barrels. Around March 1, 2004 or slightly before after still not receiving the order, and a custromer very impatient we called Armotech.us and were told that the following Monday the order will be sent less a couple of items because it was on a ship that was coming in from China - understandable - no problem. Well after another week and a half still no items, another call to Armotech stated that the items would ALL be going out together. No luck - we called yesterday and were told that the items did ship less the barrel, when we asked for a tracking number we were told only through e-mail couild we get that. Yeah you guessed it - no tracking number was ever given. After a call today we were told that the items shipped yesterday - thus the reason for no tracking number, and a bunch of other stroking details were given to us why we were basically lied to about the earlier shipment. A track of the number we were given revealed that the tracking number was NOT in the system - another call to Armotech.us - ahhhh the shipment was now sent today. Bottomline - we will no longer sell anything from Armoetech.us unless their Custromer Service improves - DRAMATICALLY! How can I as a business owner sell a product, and believe in that product if the distributor continually BS's the dealer? What if you as a customer enacts on the Limited Lifetime Warranty? Will you ever see that marker again, or within a respectable amount of time? I don't know - maybe you will and maybe you won'. At least in our experience with Armotech.com we NEVER had this problem.
As far as the rest of this goes e-mail me and I will go into it with more detail - in the end we as a company CANNOT and WILL NOT recommend Armotech.us.
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Old 04-08-2004, 05:54 PM #53
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Hey i was wondering if there were any differences in the WG-65 and the new SIM-4. Ive done some researching and could find much except the more options for the SIM-4. If there is any differences that would affect my scenerio play please tell me before i buy one or the other. Thanks.
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Old 04-08-2004, 09:31 PM #54
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Both systems are a stack-bolt, open-bolt, blow-back system - the same as you would find in a basic Spyder - but as I stated previously - when comparing to Armotech.us or Armotech.net, stay with Armotech.Com - as a military vet and retired NYPD Police Officer - I put my reputation on it.

The significant difference is that the Sim-4's cocking knob is a charging handle as in a real M-16 or Car-5A - the WG series has a side cocking knob- neither will make a difference in game play - but as far as realism goes the Sim is more realistic in that regards.

If you receive a marker from Armotech.net or .us you can expect it in a plain brown box that it is shipped in - Armotech.com actually makes the boxes for its markers unlike its competitor.

Armotech.com has stated that they are in the works of coming out with more products for the Sim Series - but when they tell you it isn't in - they mean it, and will not take your money for an item that they do not have in stock.

Go with your local Paintball Store for the marker - you should save almost a $100 off the MSRP on Sim's - at least at my store we sell as low as we are allowed to sell them for without violating our dealership agreement.
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Old 05-15-2004, 08:54 PM #55
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Which barrel is easier removed?

I like the charging handle of the SIM4, but I like the trigger of the WG65, not the double as in the 4.

So, I guess what it boils down to though is which barrel is easier to remove? I have a Tippy that comes off real fast. i want an Armo...I don't care if SIM4 or WG65, and I don't give a hoot about customer svc. or warranties. Which one would perform the best in a scenario where it'll be treated rough.
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Old 05-16-2004, 03:04 AM #56
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You just won't get a fair answer to that question on this site or any other. If you like some of the attributes of both the Sim4 and WG65 look at the warsensor. Go to my site by adding .com to my user name and check them out, or go to www.warsensor.com They are very cool
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Old 05-16-2004, 09:15 AM #57
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So how is the barrel attached in the WS? What's the going prices for these. I've seen the WG's and the SIM's for about 350.
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Old 05-16-2004, 09:46 AM #58
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The WS's are a little more expensive .. but they are better in the sence of the barrel which shoots better than a flat line the cocking knob is realistic.. comes with the clip/mag kit pre installed better all around gun. check the prices out at www.devilmountainsports.com thats about as low as they are going to get.. and you cant beat the customer ervice.
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Old 05-16-2004, 10:21 AM #59
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How does one detach the barrel on the WG or WS? I know the SIM unscrews like the Spyder. Also, the WS is nice with the bottomline; how does the CO2 attach to the WG...horizontal?
SIM...vertical? I'd appreciate answers to these questions rather than referrals to other sites.
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Old 05-16-2004, 11:52 AM #60
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I will take a picture of how the barrel attaches later today and post it.
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Old 05-20-2004, 02:48 PM #61
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was not meant to be a referal... you asked about pricing so I let you know what the pricing was like.

as far as the barrel here is a pic..

the pin is put at the top which goes through the groove in the barrel. there is also a screw to hold it in tight.

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Old 05-20-2004, 03:39 PM #62
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I don't show up here that often and forgot about this thread, thanks Matt311.
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Old 05-20-2004, 06:23 PM #63
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Thanks for the pic. I see the difference now. So really, either one is good...just personal preference. And yeah, you're right, I did ask about price...thanks for the link.
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