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Old 11-07-2011, 09:41 PM #22
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I cant wait to see some results. I hope they are as good as mine were.
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:28 PM #23
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so what ever happened with these?
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:40 AM #24
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No one reported there results.
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:11 AM #25
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I need one. PM me.

Will report results, as long as I don't have to machine my X-valve...
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:29 AM #26
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Sorry hill I haven't installed mine yet...in the process of moving so my build is on hold for a while, but as soon as I'm all settled ill do some testing
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Old 12-13-2011, 08:28 PM #27
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No one reported there results.
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Old 01-06-2012, 11:26 AM #28
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In the 90's smartparts increased the chamber size with the magic box to make the bag easier on paint(and suposedly increase range). Another company introduced the hyperMag(I think that was the name) which had a smaller then stock chamber to increase efficency. I've always thought it would be cool if you could make an easily adjustible chamber so you could maximize efficency and ease n paint based on the paint you were shooting that day.
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:11 PM #29
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I got the insert and then had a bunch of work/car projects come up.
I still have to get it installed.
I will report when I can.
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:01 PM #30
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Any update on this mod?
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Old 03-11-2012, 08:40 AM #31
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I just sent my valve to Luke to have the insert installed. Hope ill be able to report numbers next weekend.
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:17 PM #32
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Hill, I have one of your parts here, it's going into an X valve.
You sent two o-rings, a skinny and a fat one, what is the fat one for?

Which end goes towards the powertube tip, the end with the narrowest opening?

What are the drilled holes in the side for? (Just curious)

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Old 03-12-2012, 08:17 AM #33
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The fat one goes in the bottom of the shot chamber and keeps the rear of the insert centered. I did this due to the chamber being tapered and not wanting the insert wabling around. The small one is the replacement for the red oring. Hope this helps.

The small opening goes towards the front. And the small holes were to allow for full venting. I was having a problem while testing with excess gasses preventing the bolt from resetting.

Again AGD did this and got the same improvement I did but fount this to make the marker harder on paint. As I have not had an issue with brakes I thought it was time to revisit this innovation that AGD tried back when paint was not so good.

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Old 03-12-2012, 10:55 AM #34
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have there been any solid numbers between the before and after the mod? same valve, speed and paint?
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:24 AM #35
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Yes and it's around a 20% increase. Stock is around 1200 rounds and the insert shows close to 1500 rounds. But I have not gotten any feedback from the test batch I sent out as of yet. I am sure I will after the spring outings though.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:25 AM #36
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and that is off of a 68/45? 850out put? what bolt spring?
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:34 AM #37
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Not really worth the. Cost and effort, IMO.
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:05 AM #38
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If you want to send me one, I can do pretty extensive testing with and without the insert at super game (last year I shot almost 5 cases)
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:24 AM #39
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Would really like this for my ripper i'm piecing together... Hill!
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:41 PM #40
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I don't get 1200 shots of my 68/45 with a hot fill, so i hope this will help. Luke didn't loc-tite it back together so I will test with and w/o the insert
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:12 PM #41
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:06 PM #42
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Not to speak for hill, but last time I talked to him he was not set up to machine and I got the last X valve insert. So if you really want one you would have to do some serious convincing to get a second run going
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