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Old 07-18-2011, 04:07 PM #1
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hi all,

im new here and a new creed owner. i got my vanguard creed last friday and all i could say is wow the gun is an absolute gorgeous. i got a dangerous power fusion fx and then decided to but a new one. and i got some options in my mind. i was thinking of getting either an ego, g6r or the creed. and i went to the creed and it didnt disappoint. im inlove with the gun. then i ordered the upgrade for it, i ordered the v2 bolt and lightweight ram, and now i jst received it and when im checking on both upgrade and stock i don't really see any difference. my question is does the new creed have the upgrade already or not? coz right now im confused of either using the upgrade or not. coz like i said it's the same in every aspect. can any1 tell me the difference in appearance of the appearance of the stock and upgrade?


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one more thing should the lpr screw sticking out of the cap? coz i jst followed the instruction. and im not sure.
tnx.

and again i love the gun and i thought fx is a sweet gun after this gun i dont think i'll make my fx a primary anymore.



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Old 07-18-2011, 04:38 PM #2
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Welcome you made a good choice.

The Stock Bolt is Black and the Upgrade Bolt is White with 2 Flat Orings
The Upgrade Light Weight Ram has a Black Delrin insert on one end of the Ram as the Stock does not.
LPR Screw sticking out of the LPR is fine as it should be sticking out about 1-2 threads
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:51 PM #3
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ah ok i'll have to check it again later...
do i still need to upgrade the lpr even im using hpa tank?
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:24 PM #4
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The only upgrade on the LPR is the dual oring Piston. And, it doesn't matter if you are using an HPA tank. Although an HPA tank is recommended on the Creed.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:26 PM #5
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remember, the lpr is what you use to adjust velocity, not the hpr like in an ego!!!
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Old 07-18-2011, 11:09 PM #6
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yah i figure that one out yesterday.


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i jst got home and check the upgrades abd now i saw the difference between the stock bolt and ram to the upgrade bolt and ram. and now i can't wait till the weekend to try it out.

btw is the lp poppet worth the upgrade?

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Old 07-19-2011, 12:30 AM #7
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LP Poppet is stainless steel. If yours is stainless steel than you already have the upgrade.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:54 AM #8
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another noob thing i want to ask, what asa would be good for the creed? coz im having trouble screwing the asa especially when my hands are oilly. tnx.
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Old 07-19-2011, 11:43 AM #9
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another noob thing i want to ask, what asa would be good for the creed? coz im having trouble screwing the asa especially when my hands are oilly. tnx.
Stick with the stock asa. If you are having trouble screwing the asa in, you can get an aftermarket knob for it that has grip on the side. Here is a pic of my old creed that had that knob. Not sure what company, but Eric would know.

Here is my old creed. You can see that the asa knob is aftermarket.

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Old 07-19-2011, 01:08 PM #12
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ah ok thank you very much.
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Old 07-19-2011, 02:21 PM #13
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ok i jst checked my lpr and it's jst a small black plastic and a spring. and the upgrade looks way different with the piston and a long body. does my lpr suppose to look like that?


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my bad im such a blonde sometimes... lol...
i thought i was gonna upgrade the lpr then i checked again it's the lp poppet... sorry sorry

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Old 07-19-2011, 04:51 PM #14
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Your poppet stem(the piece the ram hits) should be stainless steel. All the new ones come this way from the factory.

Sounds like you have everything you need, make sure if you put the light weight ram in that you readjust the pressures for it. Other than that, have fun!
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:08 AM #15
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nah istill got mine plastic. so is it worth an upgrade? if it is how can i install it? should i take apart my gun? or jst the top off?
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:50 AM #16
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Check out the Tech Videos at the top of the Vanguard Forum it will show step by step how to get to the popet.
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i never upgraded mine while i had it, and saw no need too...it shoots money with all the V2 parts...
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:32 PM #18
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I don't think you should put the light weight ram in with the plastic poppet. You may have trouble achieving velocity since the plastic poppets were shorter. The LP poppet is probably the best upgrade for the creed though.
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Old 07-23-2011, 05:27 PM #19
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ok i went to the field today and play, all i can say is this gun is really sick, i havent upgraded the lp poppet yet and im doing a 276-280 fps. this gun is so quiet and really unnoticable kick, very accurate and very smooth. no problem at all. most of the players i shot didnt even know where i was shooting. im really really happy that i got this gun. even the kid with his bob long g6r got amazed by the creed's performance. very good job vanguard.
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Old 07-25-2011, 10:51 PM #20
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Well if the poppet you have works fine then hey......I say let it be. You can always pick up the LP poppet for backup and not use it unless you have to.
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:17 PM #21
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Only problem with the White Poppet is if u have a poppet leak u cant fix it without replacing it. The LP poppet is 100% rebuilable. Thats the pluss side aswell as lower dwells.
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